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#1316968 - 06/21/07 01:17 PM Re: Is it a crime to tell the truth? **** [Re: Chefbenn]
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LOL its hard to find any woman worth much around here they all leave if there worth keeping around. if you can find one worth it thats a good thing but often times theres no hope for finding anything decent around here.

Women around here are like the pot you find around here crap thats only halfway there and if you find anything worth smokeing and bragging about it's ussualy only a joint or three.




I don't think this kind of talk is good for the debate, the situation or the cause. How do we go from fighting rural Sask's need to be better educated to saying the wonderful women of my great province are nothing more than old roaches to be tossed away after they're smoked.

Let's stick to the issue at hand and end the sexist bullshit. The women (and men for that matter) in Wawota have lots to learn, but at least now they have someone to look up to for their knowledge in Ms. Euler and her two sons. Let's help continue their education process, even if in some cases, we're 70 or 80 years too late!

Courage, my friends..it's not too late to build a better world.




it seems pretty evident the general population of Wawota wouldn't want to learn the truth of if they could. I don't know if you guys got a different feel from being in Wawota for the walkout but it seems on here like Marc said Wawota wont change because they don't want too. thats the ugly reality of rural Saskatchewan. theres your communities that smoke and grow and absolutely love the herb. then theres the flip side complete opposite bum fuck nowheres ville where you can catch a beating for being different.

Living in Saskatchewan is like having Prozac pumped into your arm at an alarming rate. It's strangely invigorating yet at times terribly depressing. theres a lot of people who smoke herb around here then theres those who don't most who don't just plain hate it. not unlike the people of Wawota. Thats just plain ugly to think about but its the way it is. You can possibly avoid the police long enough to die without ever having to deal with them and thats probably not so bad of choice for the average spineless resident of Saskatchewan. I've lived here 25 years and the only thing thats changed is we have big box stores and prices just keep going up. the school system is so damn unbalanced across the province so your educational standards are determined by what school you went to and not simply that you went to school in an environment thats equal for all and actually includes learning facts and having the same educational programs as the next school. Instead there kinda like a war zone it hasn't been to long since my punk ass graced the halls of a high school first thing they do when you sit down for a new year of learning is make it clear that if you belong to a certain social movement or group you are not welcome.

that being said Saskatchewan is a nice place in spots I love this province a hell of a lot which is why i haven't bolted like a lot of my peers for greener pastures we had a provincial martial art it would be bar fighting for our love of getting insanely smashed each and every day. we used to grow some herb around this province there much photographic evidence in the libraries what happened to our heritage. instead we blindly obey like sheep for the most part and if we want to get away with stuff we just do or get caught. i think if herb was legalized people here would have no problem with it being legal they just don't want to say hey I too think it should be legal. I hope one day this province gets better cause it seems really fucked up.



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#1316969 - 06/21/07 02:14 PM Re: Is it a crime to tell the truth? [Re: Chefbenn]
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I agree with Chefbenn. It's unproductive to start denigrating the province/town/women over the actions of a few of the staff at the school. That's stereotyping.

I think it would reasonable to say that some valid points have been expressed by both sides.

It's important to ask ourselves... what outcome do we want from this opportunity to communicate directly with Wawota residents and students?

Is our goal learn and to educate? Then we need to listen better.

One of our goals should be to try to understand (not necessarily agree with) the people from this community that feel strongly enough to join this forum and participate. This is an opportunity to learn and evaluate our efforts for opportunities to improve our effectiveness for now and in the future.

This is an opportunity!

Let's try to be nicer to our guests for the sake of progress.

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#1316970 - 06/21/07 03:03 PM Re: Is it a crime to tell the truth? [Re: FrankDiscussion]
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Is our goal learn and to educate? Then we need to listen better.

One of our goals should be to try to understand (not necessarily agree with) the people from this community that feel strongly enough to join this forum and participate. This is an opportunity to learn and evaluate our efforts for opportunities to improve our effectiveness for now and in the future.

This is an opportunity!

Let's try to be nicer to our guests for the sake of progress.

-FD






i'm all for an adult discussion with people who are willing to listen and want to have real dialogue. i have a problem with smart mouthed kids who want to come here and call people hippies and stupid stoner fags, and spout off how deadly pot is. nor do i have any desire to hear any slanderous comments about how so-and-so sniffs thier grandma's underwear or sleeps with a picture of david hasselhoff under thier pillow, or whatever garbage people have decided to come here with.

i gots no love for those kind of peeps.

there has yet to be one person from that community show up here and hold an intelligent conversation about the incidences or what can be done now in order to appease everyone and make sure it doesn't happen in the future. they are showing up to attack people's character and sling shit, while taking absolutely nothing from the wealth of information on this site with them.
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#1316971 - 06/21/07 03:07 PM Re: Is it a crime to tell the truth? [Re: FrankDiscussion]
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I am completely disgusted by the sexist and hateful crap being flung around this forum. Mitch Lee, keep your hatred of 51% of the population to yourself. It may come as a shock to you that women are people. You sound like a porn-wanker.

As for you Marc, I have lived in this province all of my life and I have lived in many of the small towns and I deeply resent your characerization of all the people in my province. If this kind of trash talk is the best that the drug policy reform movement can do, it's no wonder that we are still fighting to get the beloved herb legalized. If I was a resident of Wawota I would not be convinced to re-evaluate my views by this kind of garbage.

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#1316972 - 06/21/07 04:38 PM Re: Is it a crime to tell the truth? [Re: stonermom]
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People on this site have got to begin to realize that there are two sides to the story, and that not always is the side that you are rooting for right. I was there and I saw what went down, as it happened, and I could only wish that all of you were to... because if you were, then maybe you would have a different look at this how soap opera dilemma. And also, I don’t think that anyone on this site should have to state who they are...If we wanted our identity’s and personal lives to be attacked and bomb barded with phone calls...then we would give you are e-mails, phone #, and all that other shit.

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#1316973 - 06/21/07 04:57 PM Advocates smouldering over boy's pot suspension [Re: Never tried]
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CTV.ca


Advocates smouldering over boy's pot suspension



Updated Thu. Jun. 21 2007 3:52 PM ET

CTV.ca News Staff





Advocates for a suspended Saskatchewan high school student are demanding a probe into the boy's treatment after his research into the effects of marijuana triggered a storm of controversy and harsh punishment.

New Democrat MP Libby Davies is among those concerned that 15-year-old Kieran King was suspended, forced to miss his final exams, and threatened with police action despite the fact he says he has never used, or even seen, the drug.

In a news release, Davies called for an investigation into Wawota Parkland School Principal Susan Wilson's actions in the case. The MP also said the Grade 10 student's research into cannabis in comparison to alcohol and tobacco is reasonable.

"I respect Kieran's right to debate issues that are important to young people," Davies said.

"There are a lot of academics that agree with Kieran's assessment of the comparative health risks of marijuana, alcohol and tobacco. It sounds like he's done his homework."

King became interested in the subject months ago when his class was given a presentation about the dangers of cannabis. Feeling the argument was one-sided, King began researching the subject on his own, came to the conclusion that marijuana was less dangerous than either alcohol or tobacco, and began sharing his findings with other students.

King has said on several occasions that he has never used or even seen marijuana.

One student complained to the school principal, who became concerned that King was advocating the use of drugs. Wilson, the principal, warned she would call the police if King talked about it again, The Globe and Mail reports.

From there, the situation spiralled further. King planned a freedom-of-speech walkout for Tuesday morning with the help of the Saskatchewan Marijuana Party -- an event at which free hemp seed cookies were to be handed out, The Globe reports.

But Wilson got wind of the protest, and students were banned from leaving the school. Kieran and his younger brother Lucas did so anyway, and Wilson then ordered a lockdown, which brought the RCMP racing to the school, where a small group of protesters stood peacefully outside.

Later that day, the school conducted a threat assessment on Kieran with the help of the RCMP and school division counsellors, Kieran's mother Jo Anne Euler told The Globe.

During the assessment, Euler said officials looked at roughly a half dozen occasions during the past year that her son had talked about marijuana. But neither she nor her son had been contacted on any of those occasions.

"Were they documented before or was it a witch hunt after the fact where they said 'Let's try to remember all the times Kieran talked about marijuana?' " she asked.

Euler says the accusations against her son -- there is video of Wilson saying he has been accused of selling drugs -- are false, and she is pushing to have him allowed to write his exams. She said he is a compulsive researcher who tends to delve deep into subjects that interest him, then tell people about his findings.

Tara Lyons, chair of the Canadian Students for Sensible Drug Policy, said in the release that the school had no right to punish King for his actions.

"Mr. King was threatened with police action for voicing an opinion that is well established in fact and science: that marijuana is less harmful than alcohol and tobacco," Lyons said.

"When he staged a walkout to defend his right to freedom of speech he was suspended, causing him to miss his final exams. Canadians ought to be outraged at the treatment this student has received for voicing an opinion."

Wawota, a town of 600, is located about 2.5 hours east of Regina.




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#1316974 - 06/21/07 05:05 PM Re: Is it a crime to tell the truth? [Re: katie bear]
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well then who's to say I'm not from Wawota, and you are a liar and you sleep with your brother? no one here wants to make mean calls and if they do then get the operator to track their number and post it here.

without placing info you have no proof either way, and just like everything in life you should have proof.

now the point is, like so many have tried to state, that Kieran, was spreading information about marijuana...all of that info was researched and correct...but it goes against what you have been told, so you stomp all over his RIGHT to say it...even though you didn't take the time to actually listen to what he said and study it for yourself.

you seem intelligent enough to know that just because someone acts differently or is less socially apt, doesn't mean they are a danger....I had knife collections, which guys on here didn't? I also don't like hanging out in big groups...lots of people don't...doesn't make them a terrorist or school shooter, or even a bad person...just a little different then you.

just because someone is antisocial doesn't make them a serial killer, look at John Wayne Gacy.
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#1316975 - 06/21/07 05:36 PM Re: Is it a crime to tell the truth? [Re: katie bear]
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That's a pretty foolish belief. I have had my name, and location on this website for well over 3 years, and never has ANYONE contacted me about anything. I guess people who are intolerant and hateful, might think anything about anyone who thinks differently than they do. We, here, do reasearch to better understand the world. We are able to decide for ourselves what is and what is not true, and, strangely enough, we don't feel we have to hide to tell the truth. Now what was your excuse again? Mikey Evans, Chairman, Oakland County NORML

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#1316976 - 06/21/07 06:09 PM Re: Is it a crime to tell the truth? [Re: katie bear]
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People on this site have got to begin to realize that there are two sides to the story, and that not always is the side that you are rooting for right.




okay. here's the thing ... our 'side' so to speak: 1) Kieran talked about cannabis being less harmful than alcohol or tobacco in school and to other students. 2) after numerous attempts to silence him (calling mom, etc), Kieran decided to stage a peaceful protest to defend his freedom of speech.

that is our 'side'. that is why we are supporting him. that is why the media is on you guys like white on rice.

anything to do with Kierans personal life is not pertinent to this discussion.


so Katie, i ask you this -- what exactly is your side? in regard to those two issues ... the 1) discussing of cannabis in an educational institution, and 2) his freedom of speech to do so ... what is the side we are not seeing?

without reverting to libelous personal attacks on Kieran and his family, would you please illuminate us and tell us the 'other' side?

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I was there and I saw what went down, as it happened, and I could only wish that all of you were to... because if you were, then maybe you would have a different look at this how soap opera dilemma.




how did what you'd seen/experienced differ from the media account?

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And also, I don’t think that anyone on this site should have to state who they are...If we wanted our identity’s and personal lives to be attacked and bomb barded with phone calls...then we would give you are e-mails, phone #, and all that other shit.




of course you don't have to identify yourselves. it's just that you have no credibility if you don't. if you believe so adamantly in your position why not be brave enough to throw the full weight of your identity behind it?


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#1316977 - 06/21/07 06:42 PM Re: Is it a crime to tell the truth? [Re: skitzo420]
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without placing info you have no proof either way, and just like everything in life you should have proof.




A proof is a proof. What kind of a proof? It's a proof. A proof is a proof. And when you have a good proof, it's because it's proven.

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