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#1316668 - 05/30/07 12:36 PM Re: Is it a crime to tell the truth? **** [Re: Never tried]
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Very interesting. Thanks for that.

Your situation intrigues me... the idea that you don't use cannabis but have taken it upon yourself to educate and inform others about the facts. Also, the idea that some of your peers felt it was taboo even to discuss the topic is a stark reminder of how squelched the discussion of this issue is in our society.

For most people the use of cannabis and the subsequent realization that they'd been lied to about it is the thing that causes them to become activists. For others, getting busted might be the springboard to activism. What this does is produce a mindset of seeing the issue as a pro-pot argument. (e.g. "pot is good and doesn't have the negative effects that are ascribed to it.")

My opinion is that an "anti-prohibition" message (stating the harms from prohibition) is more effective at reaching the mainstream than a "pro-pot" message. If someone has no interest in cannabis then they don't feel as if they have any personal investment in the issue. The public is much more likely to be swayed by hearing about how prohibition affects THEM (and all of society) negatively.

IMO, the most important concept to get across to the general public is this one...
Quote:

"The continued prohibition of cannabis jeopardizes the health and well-being of Canadians much more than does the substance itself."
- Senate Special Committee on Illegal Drugs, 2002
http://www.senatereport.ca




Good luck in your efforts. Keep us posted.

If you have a need for a specific topic for a flyer/handout let me know.

- FrankD


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FrankDiscussion,
I chose to be vocal primarily because of an incident in the fifth grade, where we were subjected to a DEA cartoon video that dealt with marijuana. This video to my recollection referred to marijuana causing permanent brain damage, addiction, indirect and direct (cancer) death, loss of memory, impotence and decreased genital size.

At the time, there was no reason for me to believe otherwise. This was reinforced by other programs in grade two and later in the dare program during grade six.

Earlier last year, I was suffering from depression due to family problems and I started looking for something that I could safely use, without a prescription and any permanent side effects. I originally found marijuana, but put it aside for months because of the lack of availability and the threat of a criminal record. I began then with simply contradicting false statements regarding marijuana, but went no further.

I then looked into other herbs and alternatives. I came upon Salvia Divinorum, Nutmeg, Amanita Muscaria mushrooms, and various prescription drugs. The herbs, did not seem to have any anti-depression effects, though I kept them in mind as an 'escape'. Amanita Muscaria and nutmeg were completely put off because of the toxins, but the research in this led to my research in magic mushrooms and ultimately the use of them. The pills were put out of my mind as well because of the possible side effects and need for a prescription. Prescription medications were out of the question because I did not want to approach my parents about depression. I had tried before, but it made the situation only worse.

The girl I mentioned before helped me to find an end to the depression, although by that time I had already been exposed to the truth about marijuana and began researching more in depth.

I then began speaking more openly about marijuana within my family and in my school, as well as some local law enforcement and public speakers as they came to the school. I felt very taken back by the denial that I received from others when I spoke about marijuana. For some people, it was simply taboo to speak about it. I decided then that I would try my best to take away that taboo and spread the truth.



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#1316669 - 05/30/07 05:07 PM Re: Is it a crime to tell the truth? [Re: Never tried]
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Re: Is what I have been doing a crime?

Free speech is not a crime.


Re: Today, my mother got a phone call from the principal at my school. She told my mom that I had been talking about marijuana often at school and often I would refer to the positive aspects of smoking (not the high, but medical) and that it is a better choice than alcohol.

She never spoke to me on this topic and preferred to go directly to my mother, who was already familiar with it.

Your mother is your legal guardian

Re: She then went on that if I did not stop 'almost promoting' marijuana use as a safer alternative to alcohol and tobacco that she would be contacting the police.

Your mother should find about about the complaint process in your School District.

Then seek legal advice.

Also, contact the Canadian Civil Liberties Association (CCLA) for advice.


Re: What do you think I should do?

Carry on as usual in a polite manner so that this remains a "free speech issue" only.



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#1316670 - 05/30/07 05:13 PM Re: Is it a crime to tell the truth? [Re: Never tried]
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Unfortunately there is no school newspaper...






It appears that Saskatchewan students need an up to date booklet like this one.

RIGHTS TALK: Students and civil liberties at school: http://www.bccla.org/rightstalk/

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#1316671 - 05/30/07 05:21 PM Re: Is it a crime to tell the truth? [Re: Never tried]
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I would have no family backing for that.

I did actually mention it to my mom after the phone call, but she only scoffed at it. She does not believe in suing anyone, for anything.




Your Mother should file a complaint and follow the School Board policy on parental complaints. (Hopefully, there is a parental complaint process.)

See if there is any advocacy program to help parents.

It is not about suing for money, it is about making the administration respect the free speech rights of all students, now and in the future.

It is about learning to be a responsible citizen.

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#1316672 - 05/30/07 05:45 PM Re: Is it a crime to tell the truth? [Re: regular guy]
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or maybe post the address and phone number to your school and like minded people here can call, email, and snail mail your principal with information....unless that could be considered harrasment lol
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#1316673 - 05/30/07 06:00 PM Re: Is it a crime to tell the truth? [Re: skitzo420]
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Posting some of the principal's contact information has crossed my mind, but it may be taken too far and that is my only worry.

If anyone would like the email address or phone number to the school, then they are welcome to have that, as long as it is only used to 'politely educate'. This would be available by PM only.


I also had a read of that handout for students. I was expecting more rights than it points out. I actually learned a lot. I did not know that teachers and administrators had the right to search and seizure if they felt there was just cause. No need for consent. Including locker and personal searches.

I also did not know that they could legally 'detain' you if there was just cause (which is determined by the courts). I also did not know that dress codes are legal in schools.

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#1316674 - 05/30/07 06:08 PM Re: Is it a crime to tell the truth? [Re: Never tried]
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Re: Quebec export ring being busted right Now [Re: greenenvy]
#1405376 - Wed May 23 2007 03:50 PM Edit Reply Quote



I wish I could find marijuana at $86.71 / pound.

Really though, this is bad news. They were all connected though? No private growers hit?

Post Extras:

Your posts are not matching up to your user name , nor your statements about never trying pot. Sixteen is a wee bit early in life for promoting a substance that would be illegal for you even if it became legal for adults.

Take heed to the advice about being loose tongued in China.
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#1316675 - 05/30/07 07:15 PM Re: Is it a crime to tell the truth? [Re: benjamin]
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His writing style and maturity reminds me of someone twice his age.

something is strange here

(I just re-read his posts, this person is not a high-school aged, my guess is older than 30 years of age)

so whose picture did he use?


Edited by Zantoo (05/30/07 07:20 PM)

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#1316676 - 05/30/07 07:24 PM Re: Is it a crime to tell the truth? [Re: Zantoo]
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"His writing style and maturity reminds me of someone twice his age. "

B I N G O my man. I did not want to point this out.
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#1316677 - 05/30/07 07:34 PM Re: Is it a crime to tell the truth? [Re: benjamin]
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I don't choose to publicize my identity at this point, so I will not make any attempt to convince you of my age. I cannot prove that I have not tried marijuana, either.

I do see how this would make a difference in the comments you give, but I cannot see the rationality of pretending to be a fifteen year old non-smoker.

If there is a legitimate problem caused by this, then I will accept exposing my identity to a administrator that will be able to confirm my claims.


Edited by Never tried (05/30/07 07:36 PM)

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