NewCannabian

The security in Schipol is indeed excellent and ever since 9/11 they have activated dormant and installed some of the most sophisticated security procedures I have seen, better than here by a long way.

420sirsmokesalot

You are missing the point, the money is already spent, the intelligence already in place and internet monitoring too. Your ignorance is likely to be the thing that lets you down though. Clearly you should not get involved in smuggling as you ignore all the good advice put your way.

I would respectfully suggest that there is no need for you to smuggle dope, just so you can boast about it. That said, I would recommend a visit to one of the many famous sex toy shops where you can purchase yourself a penis enlargement kit.

oh gimi a break,

a) sniff detectors dont just sniff like you think, the SG will use a special glove, touch as much as he can, then put it in a machine to see if there are drugs, you dont walk through a metal detector type thing and it beeps if you have got drugs

b) if this detector did exist, which im saying it doesnt, do you know how many people travel through the airport everyday, the amsterdam airport, million swill stink off weed

ILL BE FINE,

stickfingers, you just came here to get everyone paranoid, what are you a narc, how many diffeent ways do you wana try and put someone off.

a) weed is the lowest class drug in both amsterdam and uk, what type of punishment do you think there will be for a few grams, NOTHING, all this crap about banned form going to countries and job oppertunities is bullshit

if im here next weekk and say it worked, all youl be like is, oh you were lucky, but you wont be next time

420 I haven't said you will get caught this time nor in the future, As an ex-professional drug smuggler involved in large quantity - I can tell you that there is always a degree of luck involved in success.

What I can also tell you is that I was never dumb enough to get my name listed with Interpol for a few grams of smoke.

What I am saying is that a conviction for drug smuggling is a conviction for drug smuggling, yes it might be a small amount, but you will be banned from several jobs including working with children, banking, central and local government jobs and you will be banned from travel to many counties if you are caught and convicted of a crime. I really don't care if you think you know better - kids always think they know better.

Personally I don't know you and don't give a flying fuck if you get nabbed - just don't expect me to encourage you to do something that I know is the act of a dumb fuck.

Now do me a favour, stop twisting my words. Read what I have written and as I have said already, the choice is yours, it's your life.

your a pure bullshiter stickyfinger, first you are so parnoid you make it clear you are not giving advice, then you go and admit you are a ex-proffesional drug smuggler in large quantities, right after you say the goverment can find out who and where we are through our hosting sites

yeah good luck with that

You really are a bone head 420, if you think for one minute I would come here to a public forum, run by people I do not know and have never researched, then admit something which is not already on my criminal record, then you really are a very stupid person. But that you have demonstrated several times already.

Like I said. fools do stand out in a crowd.

im not the one who got convicted of drug smuggling, i dont believe a word you say. maybe you should try one of the other threads in this website and move on from this one

420, it does not matter what you believe, you are no Sherlock and that is very obvious. Your powers of detection are of the worst I have ever come across and you have a very immature way of working things out.

You are right though, I was a dumb fucker for getting caught. I learnt from the experience and although there was potential for riches - what I eventually ended up with was a criminal record.... which I have owned for over 20 yrs. I am guessing that is more years than you have been alive.

I do have some regrets that I can and have no choice but to live with. I have always wanted to visit BC and Australia and the USA... none of these countries will allow me in.

Tis clear that some people are able to learn from other peoples experiences and advice and it is also clear that you are not. If you were considering smuggling commercial amounts I would think you are an entrepreneurial type with a lust for life and riches. But no, you clearly need that penis enlargement kit.

My last words to you on this subject. Eventually you will grow up, and the good thing about the internet is that most of it is archived somewhere or another. When you have grown up you will be able to come back and reflect on the days when you were much younger, when you truly were a dumb fuck. By then you will have been to the university of life and will most likely not resist good quality information. You will hopefully be able to distinguish between people offering goodwill - advice and chip on your shoulder removed will be able to absorb information.
Thankfully most young people have much greater powers of intelligence that you, otherwise I would be very very concerned about the level of education in the world today.

Bye

Hey guys,

This was an interesting thread before it started to embark name calling...

Anyways, I'd thought I'd add my two trichromes worth:

Importation is illegal,(no shit Sherlock), this is from a reported case:

"
M. A. TOSTEVIN

Her Majesty’s Deputy Greffier.



NOTE OF SENTENCING REMARKS

Christopher James ASHMAN (21)

8 November 2005

Importation of Class A and Class B Drugs
Background


1. Christopher James Ashman, you have pleaded guilty to three counts of being knowingly concerned in the fraudulent evasion of the prohibition on importation of controlled drugs. In your possession were:-

1.743 grams of heroin

0.129 grams of cocaine

48.267 grams of cannabis resin which would have made 335 cannabis cigarettes

2. Heroin and cocaine are both Class A drugs. Cannabis resin is a Class B drug.
Circumstances


3. You had travelled to the Island on the Condor Ferry from Weymouth with two friends. You were to stay in the Island for a two day break. When stopped by Customs you initially denied having any drugs in your possession. However, Customs Officers conducted a personal search and found the package containing the drugs concealed between your clenched buttocks.

4. The first two counts carry a maximum sentence of life imprisonment and the third count 21 years imprisonment.
Guidelines


5. As you are now aware, Guernsey is a separate jurisdiction from the United Kingdom. Guernsey deplores the illegal importation of controlled drugs and the Court takes a very strict line with offenders.

6. In the leading case of Richards, the Guernsey Court of Appeal referred to the misuse of drugs as being one of the scourges of European society at the present time. In Richards the Court of Appeal laid down guidelines for sentencing drug trafficking offences. The Court of Appeal, had the following to say about a claim that drugs are for personal use:
Claims that a drug is for personal use


“As we have identified importation is a drug trafficking offence, whatever the intention of the offender as to the use to which the importation is to be put. There is however a clear division between importations of very small quantities for personal use which are punished in the same way as offences of simple possession, and importations of more than relatively small amounts which still fall within the lower of the bands we have set out. In the case of such importations, the fact that a claim is made that a drug was for personal use will not generally result in a lighter sentence being imposed than where no such claim is possible, because any importation adds to the stock of drugs available in the island. Although these cases must be looked at with care, it cannot generally be right that an addict importer of the drug to which he is addicted can be heard to claim some credit for the likelihood that he will be consuming all or part of it”.

You were at the time a drug addict and claim that the class A drugs you imported were for your personal consumption during the period of your short stay in the Island. Concerning the class A drugs, the Court will sentence you on the basis of simple possession, accepting they were for your own use.

The guidelines state that for a quantity of cannabis resin up to 2 kgs in weight, the starting point is 3 – 6 years. The Court has decided that in this case the starting point is the lowest point in the first band for cannabis, namely 3 years.

Background


7. We are told that you are now 21 years of age. You were born in Surrey and have lived in that part of the United Kingdom throughout your life.

8. Although you are still a young man, you have an appalling list of previous convictions, including drugs related offences and offences of dishonesty.

9. You have served periods of Youth Detention. We are told that you had been released from custody only 12 days before your arrest in Guernsey. Indeed, we are told that you can expect to be transferred to the United Kingdom following your sentence today, in order to have outstanding offences on the mainland dealt with. You have had a serious drug addiction problem which started at the age of 8 when you took cannabis and had grown to the point that you required £100 per day to maintain your heroin habit.
Mitigation – STAND


10. The Court has taken account of all the circumstances of the case and considered carefully all that has been said very ably on your behalf, the contents of the Probation Report and the letter from the manager of Drug Concern.

11. The Court is pleased to hear of the progress you have made whilst in the States of Guernsey prison and hope you will remain drug free when you return to the UK.

12. You have pleaded guilty for which you have been given credit of 25%, as you had little option but to plead guilty.

13. The Court has taken account of your relative youth and would have reduced the sentence by a further three months but in view of the fact you also had class A drugs in your possession, the Court consider that the appropriate length of the total sentence you should serve is 2 years, 3 months.

Sentence

14. The sentence is:

Count 1 concerning the heroin - 9 months

Count 2 concerning the cocaine - 3 months

Count 3 concerning the cannabis - 2 years, 3 months

15. All sentences to be served concurrently and to take effect from 6 July 2005.

16. Finally, the Court orders the forfeiture and destruction of the drugs in this matter. "

guernseybar.com

Ok, this is a sentence passed for a Class A and Class B offences, by someone with previous convictions, and it happened in Guernsey, but it shows the potential for things to go wrong and judicial thinking.

I recall seeing a tv, Airport or Undercover Customs, or some such "fly-on-the-wall" programme, that 10 grams and under is confiscated and a warning given, no further action is taken. I have tried to research this to no avail. You can see above the Court's attitude, which whilst distinguishing between personal and commercial importation, do not believe that this should mean a lighter sentence.

IF, and it is a big/little if, depending on your perspective, you are wanting to take the risk, and it is a personal choice, then in my opinion, concealing the drugs would be inconsistant behaviour with the belief that "it is a Class C drug, therefore non-arrestable, so what's the big deal?" Or that you've been so stoned that you forgot about the few gs in your baccy. "If you believe that you are doing nothing wrong/forgotton about your hash, then why have you some temple ball shoved up your arse, Sir?"

If you are stopped, try to be as co-operative as possible, don't try to outsmart or pull one over, since it is now likely that you are going to be searched.

So, maybe, just maybe 420's suggestion that he'd say he forgot about it in his tobacco, may just work. It may just be confiscated and a warning given. Just have a couple of rolling tobacco pouches open and in use....;)

Having read this thread and some of my own limited research, I don't think I'd be bringing anything back again, despite on most visits to Holland resulting in surplus supplies of goodies at the end of the holiday....

Have a great time, whatever you decide to do...

you carnt compare that case to me, its COMPLETLY different


this sticky fingers guy, im sure he doesnt live in the uk, and im sure he is just some kid trying to mimic his over-controlling parents, i was half expecting some crap about accepting jesus christ as my personal saviour, he is obviously a control freak who likes to put the worst on everything

im 100% sure if i bring back less than 10g i will be fine, even if i am caught i will just get a warning, i have never in my life heard of a story about anyone going to prison for bringing back weed, ive been though my airport maybe 30 times and never as much seen a sniffer dog, never been searched, well once actually when i beeped thorugh the metal detector, and ive had weed in my suitcase on several occasions

the same old crap im hearing is the same old crap ive heard on un-informed websites about mom being ultra risky and mom being sting sites, and yet with thousands and thousands of orders being placed over a dozen mom's NOT ONE bit of police trouble from an order, so it just goes to show

and what you said about me having the worst powers of detection you have ever seen, well that says alot about your life doesnt it, a) you dont know anyone in the real world, and b) what the hell does that mean, detection, hugh?

sticky, you are the ugliest person i have ever seen, and your house stinks of dog shit

sheesh 420sirsmokesalot, calm down. You came on here asking for advice, and that is what you got. There is no need for name calling, and having re-read the thread it is you who started being all arsey.

Everyone is entitled to their opinion, even if it differs from yours, this is a public forum afterall. If you don't agree with what is being said, there are many more mature ways to disagree.

If you don't want people's opinion, don't start a thread asking for it.