A. Man's "probationary period" in the garden
1. After being betrayed by a prior creation, it is not surprising that God would establish some type of probationary period for man to prove, demonstrate, or grow his love.
2. Love is an emotion of free will.
a. One cannot be forced to love,
b. One must freely and willfully grow in love.


A. Man was tempted by satan.
1. If man was not tempted, he would have originated sin, and man himself would have become "the satan".

B. Man fell to the temptations of Lucifer, the originator of sin, who possessed the serpent.
1. satan tempted them with the same desires he had when he fell from the presence of God, and man reacted identical.
a. betrayal
b. rebellion
c. independence

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God created man for fellowship, but after the betrayal and fall of lucifer, God laid down a proving ground for man to demonstrate and grow his love. To not eat the fruit was a simple test of sacrificial love. In the moral economy God was establishing here on earth sin was a possibility, but not a necessity.

God created man as free moral agents, and although tempted by satan, man freely and willfully disobeyed God in the same manner as lucifer. Had man not been tempted by satan, man would have originated sin himself and man would have become "the satan". When man disobeyed God, the darkness of sin and death was imputed to man. Man became consciously aware of the darkness in them; man acquired guilt.

I can picture an ashamed and darkened man diving and hiding in the shadows of the trees in Eden, running from the Light of God's Glory moving through the orchard. Man knew that He could no longer be in the presence of God. His newly discovered conscience let him know. That's why he tried to cover himself. Like a shadow disappearing in the Light, man knew He was no longer worthy.

The veil of separation between man and God was raised when Sin entered man.

Adam eventually became very aware of what God lost when he succumbed to the temptation of sin. Through his life, he saw sin enter and grow in the world. Adam had two boys, Cain and Abel. Cain killed Abel. Adam saw the injustice of sin continue in the world. If Abel gets justice by the death of Cain, Adam loses two sons. Where's Adam's justice? The necessity of redemption was well realized by Adam when he saw the darkness of sin imputed to his children. Somewhere deep in Adam's heart, there was a tiny light of hope, mankind's only hope, that someday the Light of God's Glory that walked with him in the garden, would come buy him back from the darkness that he sold himself to.

God lost a son when darkness entered man. God was now owed a son by the sin that killed Adam. By failing a simple test of sacrificial love, Man was now indebted to suffer the sacrifice of a Son. Payment for the one God lost. Adam was to die, just like God said. But God's love for man provided an atonement sacrifice for him, and He covered them. God more or less stayed the sentence of death imposed on man. But sin was still imputed to man, and the darkness of sin and death was still in the world, and we can see it infect.

Adam knew He had fallen from the presence of God. He could remember walking with God. He could remember what Holy was. As time and generations went on, the conscience of man slowly succumbed to the darkness of sin and death in him. Man had no standard of Holiness or moral goodness to check and balance their conscience by. This was an age of human determination, where God allowed man to establish a moral economy, to set up a "right and wrong"; But again, the fallen state of man did not know which way was up, or at least "up" was a memory that was fading fast.

As man's memory and knowledge of the Light of God's Glory faded, so did their guilty conscience. Man just re-thought and re-reasoned right and wrong to avoid their guilty conscience and to succumb to the temptations of the darkness in them. By the time of Noah, every thought of man was darkness, justice was perverted, and God regretted He ever made Man.

Man was kicked off the spiritual mountain that leads to the Lord. Man was kicked out of the garden, the physical presence of God. The flesh of man could no longer stand in His Light and Glory. Without the Light of God in man, darkness took over. But God was not done with man. Sin was not necessary, but a possibility that happened. When it became reality, God implemented His plan of redemption. He did this for no other obvious reason than love.

Even though we live in a sinful world where bad things happen, it ultimately was allowed because of the Love of God towards us. He allowed man to live and continue in their sinful state through the course of time, that we might be redeemed from the debt that the darkness in us owes God. If God immediately destroyed Adam with the darkness in the garden, you and I wouldn't be here to have a chance to see the Light.

thats ridiculous...its more silly then most religions reasons for this existence...i cant believe you accept that as fact.

firts of all you are implying god made man because he was LONELY?? he needed a companion?? so how long was god alone for before he decided to make man? and if god was omnipotent and omniscient wouldnt he have just made man at first? he cant decide something he already knows it all...and if he knows it all already wouldnt he KNOW that satan (where was he before god made man? and why if god is all powerful would he allow such a being or even NEED it?) was going to possess the snake and deceive man? doesnt and didnt he know everything already? and why didnt god warn adam and eve...you know just tell them, if a snake comes up to you and tells you to eat the apple tell him to fuck off.? why?

its such a flawed human explanation....and EXTREMELY childish...it almost hurts my head.

Every principle of Truth applied in this outline is observable in the world today. It offers answers to foundational questions that modern science cannot even begin to know how to ask; they cannot ask because they have left Truth.

Big bang doesn't explain shit. Jesus explains everything, in a way that cannot be denied.

no jesus brings more and more questions like i keep asking you...and NO answers, you have not once given me an answer based on logic or reality.

any question science doesnt answer, philosophy can.

religion does nothing but tell lies, and creates separation of man.

our religions are CLEARLY products of our environments...

Such a heavy load to bear... GIve your mind to Jesus for awhile, you will see that His burden is Light. Read the Bible every now and then.

-try to stay in the New Testament, you will begin to see the Love of God for ALL man, instead of just the Wrath of God upon ALL man



Scientific theories and philosophies are clearly products of this world and are limited by the senses of man, that they cannot observe or account for the spiritual dimension, or the knowledge that we have obtained from it.

GOd has clearly revealed Himself to any and all who seek Him. Understanding that God Loves us is the Gospel. That's the solid ROCK under our feet in which the Christian stands, we can come boldly before Him, and He will lend his attention to us.

-God is a Spirit, personal to your own spirit. But this Holy Spirit comes almost like a man, but it's Spirit.

As Jesus said "behold I stand at the Door and knock.." You will know in your heart when the "man", the Spirit that is Holy, that comes and goes like the wind (it's all the same Word of description), That Holy Spirit that mankind has been speaking of for thousands of years, you will know in your heart, just you personally, will know when He, that man-spirit that comes and goes like the wind, passes by your soul.

open the Door, cause He's real. WE all experience Him if we just open our hearts and believe. He's not hidden himself from us. Immanuel! God With Us... JESUS!

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-try to stay in the New Testament, you will begin to see the Love of God for ALL man, instead of just the Wrath of God upon ALL man

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okay here is one of my favorites from the NT...i love this when people try to tell me Jesus was nothing but love...

Luke 19:26 For I say unto you, That unto every one which hath shall be given; and from him that hath not, even that he hath shall be taken away from him.

19:27 But those mine enemies, which would not that I should reign over them, bring hither, and slay them before me.

awwwwww what a kind guy...buddha is more love and compassion then jesus....

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GOd has clearly revealed Himself to any and all who seek Him. Understanding that God Loves us is the Gospel. That's the solid ROCK under our feet in which the Christian stands, we can come boldly before Him, and He will lend his attention to us.

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and if i were a muslim i could say the EXACT same thing about my religion...lets see.


Allah has clearly revealed Himself to any and all who seek Him. Understanding that Allah Loves us is the Gospel. That's the solid ROCK under our feet in which the Muslim stands, we can come boldly before Him, and He will lend his attention to us....and if we need we can blow people up who believe different....

wow....so does that mean Islam is the right one? they believe in jesus....just not as the messiah but a prophet, and he didnt have a cool winged horse like Muhammad.

Only one person wrote the Koran. I can't put my trust in one man over my own conscience.

THe Bible is 66 different books, 40 different authors, three original languages, three continents, 1600 years writing time, all saying Jesus is God.

Life itself bears witness of the Trinity Godhead.


-HEy Sir Les, write me a "free Lucas" letter to the communities of Gray county, Texas. All the stuff's on ChristiansForCannabis.com

I've not left California in years specifically because of law enforcement assault. Finally get up enough courage to go see my Dad, the bastards nail me on my medicine. Apparently they don't get much pharmaceutical quality cannabis down there. Anyways, they tripped out on the medical packaging and arrested me. missed the family reunion. they let me out just as it was starting.

so send them a letter letting them know how shameful it is in the eyes of God when they arrest potheads. It's not a cool thing for cops to do no more.

then later if they don't listen to kindness, I'll show them in the Bible where it shows God has already condemned them wicked before the world began, it is spoken in His Word. God's not using funeral laments to describe the pothead, He's using funeral laments to describe prohibitionists, and other tyrants who force the innocent to drink their wrath.

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THe Bible is 66 different books, 40 different authors, three original languages, three continents, 1600 years writing time, all saying Jesus is God.

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and CONSTANTLY contradicting itself over and over again....and things in that book have been proven false....once again you are just picking and choosing what parts of those stories you choose to believe....as if YOU have some divine knowledge of whats right and wrong in there.

You say the Bible contradicts itself.

You do not try to understand the Bible on the Bible's terms. You want the Bible to fit your understanding, but it doesn't work like that.

It is a Living Word, It will speak to you when you're willing to listen, and you will understand that there is a God, His name is Jesus, and He loves you.