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#1308348 - 07/04/07 11:54 PM Re: Hatred ** [Re: tbud]
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Hatred is NOT a sickness of the mind. It is a natural emotion that is only subdued by those afraid to face earnestly earned hatred within themselves.
You say that a man wronged should "turn the other cheek".
I say that man should return the wrong a ten, fifty, a thousand times over until his wronger learns NEVER to cross his path again.

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#1308349 - 07/05/07 01:15 PM Re: Jesus Loves Potheads Too! [Re: skitzo420]
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i like how you have to "believe" in jesus...nothing that is true requires believing....its true and thats that...








That's all the Bible is. People just wrote down what they saw. Believing is a choice I guess. If someone chooses not to believe, does that mean it didn't happen?

Some people still choose not to believe the holocaust, which even has photographic evidence.
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#1308350 - 07/05/07 06:56 PM Re: Hatred [Re: Hefty]
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Hatred is NOT a sickness of the mind. It is a natural emotion that is only subdued by those afraid to face earnestly earned hatred within themselves.
You say that a man wronged should "turn the other cheek".
I say that man should return the wrong a ten, fifty, a thousand times over until his wronger learns NEVER to cross his path again.






I say wait on God, cause He's way more wicked than any man like you or me could ever be.
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#1308351 - 07/05/07 07:33 PM Re: Hatred [Re: Antipas]
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So what you are saying is the same as believing in karma. To hate or propagate hatred will turn around 3 fold and bite you in the ass. Karma is as Karma does.
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#1308352 - 07/05/07 08:03 PM Re: God's Wrath [Re: Puppypower]
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You can see the principles of Truth in doctrines of Kharma in the Bible, except that there's no justice and equality in it. It's not do good and good things happen, or vice versa. it's All have sinned, we are all doomed to drink the cup of God's Wrath. Mankind has destroyed the planet cause he's got sin in him.

But Jesus drank that Cup for all those who Love Him, cause He First loves us. He's gonna lift His up before He pours out His Eternal Wrath on mankind.




Therefore you are without excuse, whoever you are, when you judge someone else. For on whatever grounds you judge another, you condemn yourself, because you who judge practice the same things. Now we know that God’s judgment is in accordance with truth against those who practice such things. And do you think, whoever you are, when you judge those who practice such things and yet do them yourself, that you will escape God’s judgment? Or do you have contempt for the wealth of his kindness, forbearance, and patience, and yet do not know that God’s kindness leads you to repentance? But because of your stubbornness and your unrepentant heart, you are storing up wrath for yourselves in the day of wrath, when God’s righteous judgment is revealed! He will reward each one according to his works: eternal life to those who by perseverance in good works seek glory and honor and immortality, but wrath and anger to those who live in selfish ambition and do not obey the truth but follow unrighteousness.


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#1308353 - 07/05/07 09:53 PM Re: God's Wrath [Re: Antipas]
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I have no contempt and I do not judge. With your reasoning of God having wrath and it is too late, Why are you even posting here. You seem (and I don't really know) just by your writings to anticipate God coming to punish us all. Why would he do that when he made us in his image. What happens to us we largely make happen, and truly feeling the God spirit in your heart is feeling no hatred, or fear of death, or conceiving that there is some punishment if you sin. We can not help but make mistakes as we are not perfect. We do the best we can and sometimes life throws us curve balls. How we deal with them is how we learn to grow. Growing means you learn lessons from your mistakes and you seek knowledge from ALL form of spirituality for it is humanity that makes good or evil. And it is also your choice, free will. Karma happens, good and bad.
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#1308354 - 07/05/07 10:25 PM Re: God's Wrath [Re: Antipas]
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listen to the barbaric disgusting piece of shit you worship and expect others to.....we are all cursed and damned because we were born and apparently a few thousand years ago someone pissed off the perfect being so he takes it out on us unless we kiss his ass....man you are fuckin screwed in the head to even fathom that any organized religion has gotten it right, especially the abrahamic god....nasty mother fucker he is.
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#1308355 - 07/06/07 01:11 AM Re: God's Wrath [Re: skitzo420]
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listen to the barbaric disgusting piece of shit you worship and expect others to.....we are all cursed and damned because we were born and apparently a few thousand years ago someone pissed off the perfect being so he takes it out on us unless we kiss his ass....man you are fuckin screwed in the head to even fathom that any organized religion has gotten it right, especially the abrahamic god....nasty mother fucker he is.




Please do not hate.. I Find it very offensive to put hate literatur in a thread blog. If you have a personal opinion thats great but you can explain it with out using words of hate am I right!!! Thats my peace

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#1308356 - 07/06/07 05:33 AM Re: God's Wrath [Re: skitzo420]
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That's how organized religion turns "rational" people away from God; by making him out to be an evil tyrant that wants to take his wrath out on the world. You fell for it hook line and sinker sucker. The Bible doesn't speak of God's wrath against people. It foretells of his wrath against satan and his demons only. That's why it's so important for people to read and learn on your own rather than believe what someone tells you as gospel. To comment on something that you haven't read is .......fill in the blank.

Oh yeah, Jesus loves potheads too.
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#1308357 - 07/06/07 06:34 AM Re: God's Wrath [Re: melloweedman]
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That's why it's so important for people to read and learn on your own rather than believe what someone tells you as gospel.



I was a born-again Christian for 20 years and have a diploma in Biblical Studies as well as a Bachelor of Theology degree. I have read and studied the bible countless times. Am I qualified to comment on it?

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That's how organized religion turns "rational" people away from God; by making him out to be an evil tyrant that wants to take his wrath out on the world.



You mean like the supposed flood in which god chose to wipe out all of humanity except for a guy and his family? That's in the bible, right? And then it goes on to say that he'll never do that again and gave us a cute little rainbow as a sign of this covenant. That's really sweet, god, but you still took out your wrath on the world in a big way*. What a dick.

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It foretells of his wrath against satan and his demons only.



Really? According to the bible, I will be cast into hell because I deny god, reject Jesus, and mock the holy spirit. Does that make me Satan or just one of his demons?

As a rational person, I wasn't turned away from god by organized religions or by the portrait of him as a cruel tyrant. Here is why I reject religion (and its gods) in six easy points:

1. The usefulness of religion is in the past.
2. It's foundational books are transparent fables.
3. It is a man-made imposition.
4. It has been an enemy of science and inquiry.
5. It has subsisted largely on lies and fears.
6. It has been the accomplice of ignorance and guilt, as well as of slavery, genocide, racism and tyranny.

You can read the bible and pick and choose the lovely, puppy-dog-and-sunshine passages all you want, like someone picking their favourite items at a buffet. That doesn't mean it is true or relevant.

You read the bible and believe it. I read the bible and reject it wholeheartedly. Which one of us is the sucker?

*I use this merely as an example. I don't actually believe there was a flood that wiped out humanity.

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