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#1308308 - 06/19/07 11:43 AM Evangelical? ** [Re: Antipas]
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So are you one of those "evangelical" outburst prone people, Antipas? I've seen some in person once at Whistler, they were crazy, they kept belting out "Hallelujah!!" "Praise the LORD!"... I even heard an incidence of a "Jesus number 1!" loud outburst... All this at the breakfast table amongst casual conversation at a hotel!! Oh yes, one of the woman even had a "Property of Jesus" t-shirt. I was horrified. I've never seen one of those back home, lol.

So are you?

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#1308309 - 06/19/07 02:59 PM Re: Evangelical? [Re: mel]
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I figure he is either 14 and mommy and daddy molested him so much that he cracked or he is an adult (using the term loosely) and completely off his nut.
Fine argument for a pro-euthenasia debater in any case.

And no skitzo, although I wasn't sure about how you might feel about my taking pharmaceuticals I know you are introspective and would see the point of airing my issues to a professional and listening to others' similar experiences.
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#1308310 - 06/19/07 05:43 PM Re: Evangelical? [Re: Hefty]
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I'll embrace dreams again when I can breathe again and at that point I won't be needing them. It became clear to me that I was fighting a war I couldn't win. You don't make it on your own merit. Only royalty inherits the kingdom and that's a system good intentions can't help. Your courage is not good here so don't try to excel. What a sad day when you realize nothing can change. The revolution didn't leave you it never came. There will be no parades no royal balls just long days topped off with last calls for alcohol. Go to sleep wake up and repeat the same routine. Smooth skin dressed with wrinkles and brown eyes with dark rings, and entertainers sing of extremes that don't exist for you or me. When real life is reality tv no wonder our youth don't believe in anything. It's all a joke there are no heroes just those of us with high hopes.
It's just not that simple.
I'm not trying to save them all, I just want to create a ripple. And even if one individual is affected it is monumental with an unusual perspective that's beautiful in essence. Traditional thinking won't suggest this, is life really that precious? Well yes it is, but there will be no celebrations or congratulations no pat on the back, just your mind intact and the freedom to feel your heart beat at the speed of life,

and go to sleep at night knowing you did it right.

And rest easy outside a system that resents you for not doing what they expect you to do. Psychologically wear you down, and then they make the suggestion that you get a prescription to deal with your depression, Anxious lazy tempermental obese, That's what money lovers like to call a disease. And they'll be looking for or creating new problems, with profitable solutions to solve them. but you won't get any better. You'll just come back for more until your medicine drawer is filled with unreliable cures.
And that's the way of the beast, and I can't do nothing about it. I could shout it in a room that's crowded, but I doubt it'd make a difference. So I trust in Jesus and let His Word be my guide,
cause 21st century America likes it's witchcraft civilized.
cause 21st century America likes it's witchcraft civilized.

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#1308311 - 06/19/07 08:31 PM Re: Jesus is Truth [Re: Antipas]
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Oh please, us "non-believers" (or more accurately NON-BRAINWASHED-NON-SHEEP-TYPE) can disagree with each other just as much as you self centered, close minded, invisible god fearing christian types. Quite frankly you could not beat your way out of a paper bag, although you would probably rely on "god" to do it for you since you rely on some non-existant diety to get you out of your problems when common sense dictates that if YOU take simple steps, you could probably resolve most issues your own frigging selves.

Allllllllrighty then....

Quote:

See how nonbelievers bite and devour and consume each other? The Bible says so.

Yeah, it's like, if you want to be serious, I can be serious.

But it's way more fun beating the nonbelievers at their own game.

Christ will set you free.





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#1308312 - 06/20/07 01:50 AM Re: Evangelical? [Re: Antipas]
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that ranting gibberish made no sense at all ... if your grass has white powder all over it stop smoking it
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#1308313 - 06/20/07 06:34 AM Re: Evangelical? [Re: Hefty]
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If god is real, its fucked up he gave me enough common sense to see right through the bullshit known as the bible. 99% of Christians are a bunch of haters and hypocrites. If your shaking your head and pissed off at me right now just read this then STFU. How about you stop praying, and go make shit happen.


1. According to your Bible I am to believe that human kind is sinful for Adam and Eve ate the fruit of knowledge. Why are we being punished for the original sin? After all, they ate the forbidden fruit, we didn’t. Reason would lead one to say it’s their problem, not ours. Even the bible contradicts itself by claiming in Deuteronomy 24:16, “children shall not be punished for the sins of their fathers.”

2. We are told that the Bible has no scientific errors and is utterly perfect/protected, yet it says the bat is a bird (Leviticus 11:13 & 19), hares chew the cud (Leviticus 11:5-6), and some fowl (Leviticus 11:20-21) and insects (Leviticus 11:22-23) have four legs.

3. Heaven is supposed to be a perfect place. It is of course, the place you strive for and name “salvation”. Yet, it experienced a war (Revelation 12:7). How can there be a war in a perfect place and if it happened before why couldn’t it happen again? Why would I want to go to a place in which war can occur? That’s exactly what I’m trying to escape, aren’t you?

4. We are told salvation is obtained by faith alone (John 3:18 & 36) and then the Bible claims that it is repentance that shall save us (2 Peter 3:9) yet Jesus told a man to follow the Commandments-Matthew 19:16-1 8 (saving by works)-if he wanted eternal life. So which way is it and how do you know your belief is the correct one?

5. According to the text there are 29 cities listed in Joshua 15:21-32. One need only count them to see that biblical math is not to be trusted. The total is 36.

6. Surely you don’t believe Ecclesiastes 1:9 RSV (“What has been is what will be, and what has been done is what will be done; there is nothing new under the sun”)? How many cities had an atomic bomb dropped on them prior to 1945, and how many people walked on the moon before 1969?

7. If the Bible is our moral guide, then how can it make pornographic statements such as: “...they may eat their own dung and drink their own piss with you” (2 Kings 18:27)? Also consult Numbers 31 where a whole tribe of people, including the elderly and children are slaughtered. The only survivors were the virginal women, who were later raped by the “just and perfect” Moses and his men. Is that what you want your children reading on Sunday?

8. If God created everything, (Colossians 1:16, Ephesians 3:9, Revelation 4:11 & John 1:3), then he did create the world’s evil (Isaiah 45:7, Lamentations 3:38). Thus, he is responsible. Any being who could create situations such as rape, death, malnutrition, disease, molestation and murder is certainly not fit for worship.

9. For justice to exist, punishment must fit the crime. No matter how many bad deeds one commits in this world, there is a limit. Yet, hell’s punishment is infinitely greater. It’s eternal. Shouldn’t a sinner suffer until remorse is felt and the crime is atoned for? What “justice” is there in infinite damnation?

10. Jesus said, “whosoever shall say, Thou fool, shall be in danger of hell fire” (Matthew 5:22). Yet, he himself did so repeatedly, as Matthew 27:19, Luke 11:40 & 12:20 show. Shouldn’t he be in danger of hell too? Jesus also told us to “Love your enemies; bless them that curse you," but ignored his own advice by repeatedly denouncing his opposition. Matthew 12:34 (“0 generation of vipers”), and Matthew 23 :27 (“... hypocrites... ye are like unto whited sepulchres.“) are excellent examples of hypocrisy. If Jesus himself is a sinner by his own admission then surely he can not be the “perfect lamb of god”.

11. Except those of biased Christian writers, there isn’t one writing outside the Bible in all of ancient history that clearly refers to Jesus of Nazareth. The decision to dedicate my life to a deity requires at least one shred of conclusive evidence. Your lord knows non believers exist as a result of this, yet he makes no attempt to supply proof. How can the bible claim god wants all in heaven if he doesn’t make efforts to ensure that we all believe in him?

12. Paul says Christianity lives or dies on the Resurrection (1 Corinthians 15:14-17). Yet Jesus made many promises concerning his return during the lifetime of his then followers. (Matthew 16:28: “There be some standing here, which shall not taste of death, till they see the Son of Man coming in his kingdom”. Matthew 23:36, 24:34, Mark.9:1, 13:30, Luke 9:27, 21:32 & John 21:22) None of these prophecies have come true. Does this not make Jesus a false prophet? If so wouldn’t that make Christianity invalid?

13. I find the idea that a man had to die for my sins revolting. If God was truly omnipotent he could have simply forgiven us. What kind of deity, would execute one child in order to forgive it’s others? Modern society would call an individual like this sadistic, insane and cruel. Surely, you would not worship a child killer, why do you expect me to? Would you find a judge worthy of the title who would allow my child to be executed in lieu of my sins?

14. John 14:12 states a follower in Jesus can perform any of his works and do it even greater. If you continue to insist I believe in Jesus, it is only fair I may ask of you to show just how strong your faith is. After all, you would be my “mentor” in Christ. I’m not a believer as of yet, but surely you are. Would you mind perhaps resurrecting a dead relative or walking on water?

15. Okay, obviously you didn’t do number 14 and backed out with the “this is metaphorical” excuse. Surely you can try Mark 16:17-1 8 which says believers can drink “any deadly thing” and “it shall not hurt” them. But I don’t think you would be naive enough to drink any arsenic offered. Perhaps I’m wrong and you would be willing to test the Book’s veracity-”lay it on the line” so to speak?

16. All right, so now you have backed out of two of my questions. I’m starting to think you don’t really care about my salvation as much as you claim. Well, unlike your Jehovah, I shall be kind and offer a third chance at redemption. Consider Jesus’ teaching in Luke 6:30 “Give to every man that asketh of thee; and of him that taketh away thy goods ask them not again.” Perhaps, if you emptied your wallet and “give of thee” I may seriously ponder accepting Jesus as my savior.

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#1308314 - 06/24/07 07:11 PM Re: Evangelical? [Re: bayareabud]
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God is real. His name is Jesus. Anyone with any sense knows there is a spiritual dimension that scientific method does not or cannot acknowledge.
Christians know the timeless principles of Truth extracted from the Bible never fail.


1. it is observable that mankind is like a cancer on the planet.
For I consider that our present sufferings cannot even be compared to the glory that will be revealed to us. For the creation eagerly waits for the revelation of the sons of God.
For the creation was subjected to futility – not willingly but because of God who subjected it – in hope that the creation itself will also be set free from the bondage of decay into the glorious freedom of God’s children.

For we know that the whole creation groans and suffers together until now.

Not only this, but we ourselves also, who have the firstfruits of the Spirit, groan inwardly as we eagerly await our adoption, the redemption of our bodies. For in hope we were saved.
Now hope that is seen is not hope, because who hopes for what he sees? But if we hope for what we do not see, we eagerly wait for it with endurance.


2. The autograph manuscripts are all God-Breathed. There is no contradictions in authorial intent, and our ancient manuscript evidence testifies to it's accuracy.
I suppose a guy could cherry pick a few passages and strain gnats about the details, but it's better if they can just trust that they can draw a circle and try to understand it with their heart.

Let God be True, and man a liar.


3. there is no darkness in the Light of the Glory of God. Heaven is a place "lifted up". Heaven is one of the Promises. And yeah, it's the world without sin like Adam had before He didn't love God.


4. It's up to you. Do you believe He's God? That's where you start. Do you have enough evidence to draw a conclusion? maybe there's some more homework to do. Do you understand the basic foundations of the Gospel message, so that you can see what I see? Is it just too crazy to be True?
I say, it's too perfect to be crazy, and it's all coming True.

Faith is the vehicle by which the imputation of Christ's Righteousness is Given. Faith is not dependant on works, but True Faith will be evidenced by works, and changes in your life.


5. Do you see the pattern in PI ? does it matter? If I were denying the existence of the Creator who spoke Existence into existence, I'd want to see that pattern...

Joshua 15:32- Translator's note (NET Bible)- The total number of names in the list is thirty-six, not twenty-nine. Perhaps 1. Some of the names are alternatives (though the Text appears to delineate clearly such alternative names here and elsewhere, see vv. 8,9,10,13,25b); or 2. more likely, later Scribes added a list originally numbering twenty-nine and failed to harmonize the concluding summary statement with the expanded list.

I don't really read Joshua to count towns. I read it cause I see Jesus in it, and ultimately that's what God is trying to show us.


6. Isn't an Atomic Bomb like a "big bang" or something? Adn how do you really know man walked on the moon??? I got more evidence to support the Resurrection of Jesus, The Christ, than people do to prove man landed on the moon.

Man on the moon was staged in the San Bernardino mountains. It was necessary for the Americans to beat the Russians to the moon. You see, they kind of got into a game of "king of the mountain" after WW2, and everything was a competition.
Man on the moon, my Lord. People will believe anything...



7. You should read Judges. It makes my gut turn every time. It may be immoral in the image you have confined God to, but you must admit that wicked shit like that in the Bible really adds to the proof of it's authenticity. Seriously, why would someone want that in their "Good Book", if they were just putting together fairy tales?

8. That's why we worship the One Creator of all created things, His name is Jesus. He took the form of a man to pay ransom for all the people bound down by sins like that.

In the moral economy God was establishing here on earth, sin was a possibility, not a necessity.

9. God took the form of a man to pay that price. THere is no other obvious reason than love. Now, GOd's looking for the vessels that want to love Him.


10. Like my Dad used to say when I'd fight with my Brother, "I do the hitting"
We know He's the Lamb of God because He came up out of the Grave.


11. Ever read Josephus? A Jewish Historian who writes "He was the Christ", is just one example of extra-Biblical writings from non-Christian cultures off the top of my head.

The True evidence of Christ is personal. I'll be just Jesus and you, you and Jesus; when you want to truly seek Him out.

And your chance to make that decision could be right now.


12. I wonder if Stephen was standing there.


I gotta go eat supper, I'll be back to try to help you understand God's real and those prophecies are coming True again. Jesus wasn't kidding. He's GOD!
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#1308315 - 06/24/07 07:34 PM Re: Evangelical? [Re: Antipas]
Antipas Offline
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Part 2.

13. God is a Just God and cannot be unjust. God lost a perfect Son to sin. God is therefore owed a perfect Son by sin. That’s why God said “if you eat that , you gonna die”
But God loved Adam, He didn’t want to kill him. So he let man multiply in his sinful, cancerous state, tolerating him bringing havoc and destruction to the ecosystems and other creatures of the Earth-and themselves;
So that according to the appointed time, HE took the form of a Perfect Son without spot or blemish, to pay the price Himself.
Justice was served on the Cross. HE paid the price for us, so that we can live. Not just in this life, but in His Light.


14. Some of the older guys always tell stories of healings.

Everything testifies to the Glory of Christ. You’ll get your evidence personally from God.



15. What are you talking about??? I smoke MARIHUANA every day! I’d have jumped out a window or killed myself or others if it wasn’t for the Holy Spirit delivering me from the bondage of idolatry and spiritual fornication.
You should see them guys play with rattlesnakes, Nuts!

The Just, by His Faith, shall live.



16. Now is a good time to seriously consider the Gospel message of Jesus Christ. You will probably never get a chance to chat with another Christian that won’t call you a sinner for smoking weed. If your in the Indica Empire area, give me a call you can check out one of our Bible Studies. It’s a good Christian fellowship. It’s a real, relationship based Body in Christ. And you won’t hear me telling people “Just say no”. It’s all about “be ye sober”, as in be sober about your dope smoking, don’t let it cause damage to your love.

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#1308316 - 06/24/07 07:37 PM Re: Evangelical? [Re: Antipas]
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CMon Antipasto, you know what came after the "big Bang".......




The Big Cigarette. Mikey

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#1308317 - 06/24/07 07:46 PM Re: Evangelical? [Re: mikeyzero(40 grit)]
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Rampant idiocy?
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