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#1290130 - 04/27/07 09:08 AM Re: Soil Mix. Suggestions wanted. * [Re: Wedge]
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well heres my suggestion, 4 of my plants are 4-6" tall and sounds like we might have started them around the same time, but I just put mine into the ground and water every once in awhile no nutes or special type of soil added. I have let mother nature do all the work for me so far, hope she still works as hard as she has been doing. But I am no pro maybe I am just getting lucky with mother nature she is doing good.


Edited by ResinGland (04/27/07 09:11 AM)
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#1290131 - 05/06/07 08:06 PM Re: Soil Mix. Suggestions wanted. [Re: Wedge]
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Another update.

The plants in the veg mix are still doing great. The seedlings I transplanted into the veg mix needed a bit more time. It was a bit rich for them, but after a week of being in the soil they are turning around. I probably should have waited until they were about 8"-10" tall. But they weren't hurt too bad. I'm also considering only using the veg mix in the bottom of the pots for this step.
The plant in the flowering mix has had an adjustment to the pH. I had to water with 6.0 to get 6.5 out. It's only been a few days so it may be a bit soon to tell. I also gave some thought to composting time, wondering if it just needed more time to cook. So today I transplanted a few more plants into the same mix. These ones were in the sheep shit mix. In a week or so I'll know how they like it.
For now that's all I got. No more revisions to the mix. The veg mix is spot on for sure, they don't need a thing. The flowering mix either needs time or tweaking, but it's close.
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#1441170 - 08/31/08 09:48 PM Re: Soil Mix. Suggestions wanted. [Re: Wedge]
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Hey Caligrower... I do not understand how you can use a

different soil mix for bloom with the plants already in the

ground, and what kind of soil do you use for both mixes?

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#1441596 - 09/02/08 12:37 AM Re: Soil Mix. Suggestions wanted. [Re: flux capacitor]
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I grow outdoor, this is the recipe I use for a 10x20ft plot. I mix it in when I till the soil, just after the last frost.

2 - 5gal buckets of homemade "fish emulsion"
2 - 5gal buckets of seaweed (dried and pulverized)
20lbs - bone meal
1 - 5gal bucket of whole bananas
8 - 5gal buckets of horse manure (from a local farm)
4 - 5gal buckets of ashes
after I mix it all up, I add 5lbs of redworms

The worms or the bone meal are the most expensive part of my mix, most of the rest is free. I have had success with this mix for the past 6 years. I still fertilize with an organic tea for a few weeks after summer solstice, and then continue with just molasses for the duration of the grow.

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#1456385 - 10/12/08 05:53 PM Re: Revised mix. [Re: backyardboogie]
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Here is what I'm using now.

Veg mix.

2 tbsp Dried Seaweed
3 tbsp Worm Castings
2 tbsp Bone Meal
2 tbsp Alfalfa Meal
1 tbsp Blood Meal
1 tbsp Garden Gypsum
1 tbsp Mycrohize.
1 tbsp Greensand


Flowering mix.

2 tbsp Dried Seaweed
3 tbsp Worm Castings
2 tbsp Bone Meal
2 tbsp Alfalfa mea
2 tbsp Greensand
1 tbsp Garden Gypsum
1 tbsp Bat Guano
1 tbsp Mycrohize

These are added per gallon, to my base mix.

4 parts Pro Mix HP
3 parts Perlite
2 parts Compost
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#1460707 - 10/28/08 02:15 AM Re: Revised mix. [Re: Wedge]
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Nice recipe. I personally dont use such a large variety of nute sources but you sure are giving your soil a lot of love. I use way more worm castings and mix them into my soil mix. I also use a bit more greensand and mix in a pinch of epsom salt.

Then again you know what they say

there are as many ways to grow organic as there are organic growers!

My soil mix:
3 parts soil
1 part worm castings
1-2 parts perlite

Per cubic ft of soil mix I add:
1 cup blood meal
1 cup bone meal
1.5 cups greensand
1 cup kelp meal
1 cup dolomite lime
1/4 cup epsom salt

Cook for at least a month in a closed clean trash can with distilled water. i use 2.5 gallons of water per 35 gallon can.














Edited by NorCalKronic (10/28/08 02:24 AM)

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#1460722 - 10/28/08 06:31 AM Re: Revised mix. [Re: NorCalKronic]
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Excellent Post cali! I always enjoy pictures to help narrate a subject. With a mixture like this, one would have to add very little in the way of extra nutes during the season...maybe some top dressing during budding. Peace and pot


Edited by jawohio (10/28/08 06:31 AM)
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#1460831 - 10/28/08 02:22 PM Re: Revised mix. [Re: jawohio]
NorCalKronic Offline
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yes that is exactly what i do. seabird guano, greensand and dolomite lime make an excellent top dressing.

some people also brew teas but that is a bit messy and too much work for me.


Edited by NorCalKronic (10/28/08 02:23 PM)

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#1461014 - 10/29/08 12:29 AM Re: Revised mix. [Re: NorCalKronic]
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If you add too much lime, the pH will rise to undesirable levels and will not be able to be lowered. Lime sticks in soil and cannot be leached out. If you’re sure your medium will be too acidic and require lime, than go ahead and add some, but if you’re not sure it’s best to leave it out on the first run. If I use lime in my mix with my soil the pH rises too much.

-caligrower

This statement is contradictory to what i have previously read. Authentic dolomite lime has a neutral ph of 7. It is used to bring acidic soil back up near 7. Your mix is most likely alkaline to begin with. Here is my source.
http://books.google.com/books?id=rnwwxoO...result#PPA88,M1

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#1461394 - 10/30/08 09:31 AM Re: Revised mix. [Re: NorCalKronic]
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caligrower hasnt posted in over a year...

im actually using his soil mix, and having some pH issues, my next batch is getting lime

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