I'm planning on becoming a manager at subway after I get the 2 year associates in arts degree my parents made me get because I love veggie sandwiches. I have the intelligence to become a doctor, but I'm just not motivated by the money or the life. That sure is the way they do it. I'm going to hopefully work at subway while I get my tuina certificate, then Im going to volunteer my free time in pursuit of shamanism and do my own personal brand of massage/shamanistic healings because I belive in spirit and spiritual healings. shamans are suprisingly rational. they have a great knoweldge of the plant world and they believe that emotions cause disease. i'm pretty convinced of spirit. those shamans say they see those mandalas in their visions, and even the yeti or the himalyan bigfoot.

I have no beefs with those beliefs,because i realised your beliefs aren't the majority,you aren't a threat.What sort of a thing is that to say,when your religion is the one that is preaching mans theory of creation as"the big bang".A lifeless belief for it has no soul,it is creating an institution of nomads wandering,searching for answers, relying on a normal human thinking to answer questions that are spiritual,for your religion is based on the the foundation of what?what are our purposes here?do we just die?this big bang just happened to leave us with all we need on the one place,food,water,herbs etc,must have been a smart"big bang",should i start worshipping the"big bang"for all it has given me,and the prophet darwin for awakening me to this and bringing the message?.You are against what the goverments are doing in the world,yet you are one of their followers,for this is what they want us to believe,that man alone knows the answers,so listen to him,and do as your told,and follow.Follow where? To destroy the belief in the spirit,and deny man his right to be united as one mind,body and soul,to push it that much that your religion overtakes all others,who will we be answering to then? I for one shall stick to my belief in a god,its like gravity you can't see it but its there.

Plagiarism is intellectual theft. just because you found it on the internet, doesn't mean it's fair game.

you not only cut and pasted the questions, but you presented them as your own intellectual property. it's not the first time you've done that.

as a budding philosopher you might want to get your ethics in order.


Ethics and Plagiarism: a simplified review.

Knowing why plagiarism is considered wrong by academic faculty is as important for students as knowing how to avoid it. Many of the major western ethical theories can be used as a grounding for placing a value on academic honesty. At the same time, they could be misinterpreted as supporting plagiarism, or in rare circumstances could truly support plagiarism. Exploration and discussion of student and faculty ethical thinking about plagiarism could lead to a greater understanding of the issues. These very simplified interpretations could serve as a starting point to those discussions.

Virtue Ethics (Aristotle) : Strive for happiness, to be as fully human as possible, balance between a painful excess of honesty and the vice of dishonesty. Alternative: just plain vice! Note from Dr. Beth Dixon, " The main question students should ask themselves is: What kind of person do I want to be? Since honesty is a virtue or state of character, to knowingly cheat or plagiarize is to diminish the moral character of oneself...or to fall short of a moral ideal."


©Ethical Relativism (Williams) : Morality is a product of cultural norms, the culture of academia is to cite. Alternative, student culture might be to plagiarize! Note from Dr. Beth Dixon, "You know, I wouldn't include anything about moral relativism because it doesn't have the credentials of a normative theory. It is more like a mistaken assumption about ethics that needs to be corrected when it is articulated by students."

©Utilitarianism (Bentham and Mill): The good produces a net benefit, learn and be rewarded. Alternative, could be used to justify plagiarism in one class to study in another! Note from Dr. Beth Dixon, "Utilitarianism is hard to use as a way of lobbying against cheating because in some cases it might be morally correct to cheat (according to this theory). But you could put the point in this way: Cheating is wrong in some cases because overall, it produces more unhappiness and emotional pain for all affected by the act of cheating, than would be produced by not cheating. The important feature of this calculation often left out is that those affected include more than the the immediate pleasures or pains of the student herself. Also, we need to include the long range consequences of the action for the student, the pleasures or pains of faculty, other students, parents, etc. How you spell these consequences out depends on the actual situation."

©Ethics of Care (Noddings and Gilligan): Moral responsibility for the benefit of those you care about, therefore don’t cheat yourself out of an education, or your friends out of a fair grade. Alternative; plagiarize from a book in order to help yourself or let a friend copy your lab report!

©Kantian Ethics (moral law) (Kant): There are moral laws and they apply equally to all persons, therefore don’t plagiarize if you think it wrong to steal other people’s property, if you wouldn’t want them to steal your property. Plagiarize only in order to protect life or something equally critical. Note from Dr. Beth Dixon," Here is an abbreviated slogan about Kant. Would you (the student) recommend that everyone cheat? Do not make yourself an exception to a rule that you believe everyone else should follow."


http://faculty.plattsburgh.edu/holly.hellerross/ethics_and_plagiarism.htm


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Plagiarism

The Internet makes plagiarism even easier than it used to be. Plagiarism, defined as the act of presenting oneself as the author of someone else's intellectual or creative work, is a very serious academic offense that benefits no one (it's stealing from others and only perpetuates one's own ignorance). Because the Internet is often anonymous and information is so freely available, some students do not understand that "cutting and pasting" text from the Internet without giving proper attribution constitutes plagiarism just as much as copying text out of a book. When your child uses quotations and information drawn from the Internet in his or her school reports, make sure that he or she understands why it is important to give proper credit to the originating author and/or Web site. The Internet also makes it easier for students to plagiarize by buying essays and reports from so-called "term paper assistance" companies. Many teachers and schools are quite familiar with these papers, since they are so widely available and so often turned in.

Fortunately, the Internet also makes catching plagiarists easier than it used to be. By typing a phrase or even an entire paragraph from a report into an Internet search engine, teachers can immediately call up the source text. The Internet also makes it quite easy for teachers to verify that a cited text actually exists (thus thwarting students who like to invent their own supporting evidence).

http://www.sandiego.gov/public-library/pctech/child/ethics/plagiar.shtml

haha don't do it klos. i work at a subway now and it's lame.

wow maha...you suck at reading all posts....but you are good at talking shit, but i ASKED hillbilly atheist if i could use that. atheist websites are up for people to take the questions and videos on them to help people gain knowledge. im not trying to pass it off as my own, yet i realized that as soon as i ask questions that are too hard my sources or spelling or grammar gets attacked....nice strategy.

you can go to his website, i have been talking to him alot lately. he might even move up here to toronto he said. heres his website just to make you all happy.

www.hillbillyatheist.com

now everytime someone says something they heard from someone else its plagarism?

they were questions and i was not writting a test or selling them, they were general questions...shit i even gave him klos' ridiculous answers to his well thought out questions.

and im not a philosopher that will believe any ol' crap and not question things. think of me more like Nietzsche, and you will understand my philosophy. but my favourite philosopher is Richard Carrier. a naturalist. just because i question peoples fanciful beliefs doesnt mean im any less a lover of wisdom, actually religion and all this sporit shit is a virus on wisdom, im more of an intellectual doctor, then a philosopher. just trying to clean up the mental rubbish that you are all so fond of.

Plagiarism is bad because it confuses ownership, and ownership is necessary for the attachment of responsibility. Someone has to be responsible for those words!

What do you think this is, the work of impersonal forces??

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Morality is a product of cultural norms, the culture of academia is to cite. Alternative, student culture might be to plagiarize! Note from Dr. Beth Dixon, "You know, I wouldn't include anything about moral relativism because it doesn't have the credentials of a normative theory. It is more like a mistaken assumption about ethics that needs to be corrected when it is articulated by students."

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That made me think about that episode of The Simpsons where Bart tries to get Santa's Little Helper to be obedient...

I am sure that skitzo has read enough Nietzsche not to be bamboozled by the "but you won't be virtuous!" "but that's not normative!" "but that's not in line with theory XYZ!!!" guilt trip.

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Plagiarism is intellectual theft.

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We could think of it that way. Or we could be reasonable and suggest that if one wants to be greedy and hoard words, one should keep 'em inside of his skull. As soon as one lets them out, they become common property.

I dont understand whats the fuss about the Bible. If you dont buy into the bible stuff than dont. Its a free world. Just remember, millions or zillions thru time have believed in the Bible for whatever reason. Be happy and believe in whatever makes you happy. Klos if you get into the Shaman biz. teaching people to retrieve their power animal is a hot biz at the moment. I was interested in the Shaman stuff but had a very scary experience. I was in a drumming circle and it was circle to help others retrieve their power animal and when I told the person I was working with his power animal, he reared up and almost stuck me. He may have choked me to death had others not been in the room. So I walked away from it all. I found out later he feared me because he saw my purple aura. I felt good about what I told him but obviously it was not good for him. I felt later whatever I said to him that affected him in such an angry way that it was more than likely something he needed to deal with.

and you suck at your lame attempt to justify plagiarism.

the questions are one thing ... and still you might have linked them.

it was the 'extras' ... i mean, you lifted the whole piece!

and topped it off with 'did i miss anything?' -- give me a break.

you also tried to pass off a comedy bit by Bill Hicks as your own ... remember your little tirade about the Gideons? (in the 'understanding Skitzo' thread) -- and then tried to defend it as your own bit of comedy!

there is nothing wrong with my reading or my comprehension skills.


some 'intellectual doctor' you are.


pfft.

Rtav is a clever one. I think he should push ahead and do a PHD in what interests him the most. That way he will gather respect on whatever he claims. He makes great pot cookies by the way.

Rtav is a clever one. I think he should push ahead and do a PHD in what interests him the most. That way he will gather respect on whatever he claims. He makes great pot cookies by the way.