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#1233886 - 12/13/06 07:30 PM Re: Aleda Clear Rolling papers are these highly toxic? [Re: skitzo420]
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I guess you didn't read my posts or the links. GLASS is the brand that is 14% Glycerin dude...
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#1233887 - 01/29/07 04:28 PM Re: Aleda Clear Rolling papers are these highly to [Re: MrTobacco]
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word. has anyone tried the 1Back clear papers? I got a pack of em...and these seem to be the ones all my friends are goin crazy over...yet i havent seen these ones mentioned.

this is what their website said about them:

"---The 1BACK Transparent Cigarette Paper is made of 96% cellulose, 2% animal fat and 2% humidity (H2O). No chemical additives are contained, so you are handling a non-toxic product! That is pretty different from some nocive substances you get on the traditional papers."


is animal fat particularly bad when burned?

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#1233888 - 01/29/07 08:05 PM Re: Clear Rolling papers - are they highly toxic? [Re: BF317]
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PS: Don't use the other brands if they claim to contain glycerol in them.




It says on Aleda's site that they do use glycerin, but they claim that since it only burns once, the deadly chemical can't be fully developed.

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From Adela's site: Glycerin is a neutral, sweet-tasting, colorless, thick liquid which freezes to a gummy paste and which has a high boiling point. It attracts moisture and gives the product a shiny and soft texture. This is the reason for the use of glycerin. It can only be harmful when re-heated various times at very high temperatures. This does not happen with aLeda as it can only burn once and cannot be re-used.



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#1233889 - 01/30/07 07:40 AM Re: Clear Rolling papers - are they highly toxic? [Re: Watashi]
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could it be that we have gone so many years without clear papers because a previous Culture of Tokers developed the clear paper and then all died from inhaling its toxic vapors?

Then like the clear paper died with its creators, only to be resurrected again by some folks just lookin to make a buck.


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#1233890 - 04/15/07 03:06 PM Re: Clear Rolling papers - are they highly toxic? [Re: xynamax]
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Dude I am sorry to be the one to break it to you but you've been lied to and tricked into burning Glycerin.

Yes, Glycerin has a flash point of 600f
Yes, a Bic lighter burns at 1300f
Yes, if you touch a lighter to Glycerin it WILL BURN - it has to.

If the Glycerin didn't burn as Aleda claims, then where does it go? Does it just vanish into thin air? Perhaps the Glycerin fairy comes and takes it away...

Guys remember that Aleda and 1Back are in BRAZIL. They don't care about you or your health, they only want what is in your pockets.

Regular white papers use calcium carbonate to make themselves burn slow. Burning Calcium Carbonate releases Co2 (totally fargin harmless).

Burning Glycerin releases Acrolein gas - totally fargin harmful. However in these clear papers the amount of Glycerin is very very small so it really has no real harmful effects (I beleive).

However for you to be tricked into thinking that burning a Cellophane Cigarette is healthier then burning a white paper is really sad, wrong, mean, false, and fraudulent.

DO THE RESEARCH YOURSELF - DON'T BELIVE ME AND PLEASE DON'T BELEIVE A COMPANY IN BRAZIL THAT WOULD REALLY BE IN THE POTTY IF YOU FOUND OUT THE TRUTH.... they lied.... First they said their product had no Glycerin, then when caught they put up that second lie about how their Glycerin doesn't get burned? You have to reheat it several times? That's really utter nonsense. Do the research guys - you will know the truth.

I honestly don't think there is anything wrong with burning those Cellophane Cigs, but it's certainly not better for you then smoking a good tree-free regular paper.

FYI: Wood contains Arsenic and since Aleda is made from 80% Wood - guess what it contains?

See: http://www3.interscience.wiley.com/cgi-bin/jhome/2676 regarding trace arsenic found in Euc. Trees.
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#1233891 - 04/20/07 03:44 AM Re: Clear Rolling papers - are they highly toxic? [Re: MrTobacco]
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You are an idiot, just like just about everyone else in this thread. If you did 5 minutes of research on fucking wikipedia you'd KNOW, but you DON'T, because you are lazy.

Here is the truth.

Clear rolling papers are neither more harmful or less harmful then normal white papers. White papers contain bleach. While it may be true that there is not enough glycerin to release the acrolein gas, what acrolein gas does is it supresses your lung cilia, increases your risk of emphseyma and chronic bronchitis. The big problem with this is empheseyma and bronchitis is what smoking anything causes, which means that you will have no clue whether its acrolein gas or not.

I have no clue where you got the idea that white papers are "tree free." Also, thanks for telling us that wood has arsenic, you sped. Almost anything grown in the fucking soil has arsenic in it, you goddamned retard.

I am calling you names because you provided a link to prove a piece of information that is completely irrelevant due to the fact that ALL WOOD HAS ARSENIC, AND ALL THINGS GROWN IN THE GROUND. In fact, did you know that there is arsenic and cyanide in your body, right now? very small amounts, to be sure, but it is there.

See, most people on these boards are just lazy. I am not so lazy, but I make up for it by being an asshole blowhard. MrTobacco, if you completely ignore all of my insults and fire off your own, I would be very pleased, because that is kind of how I swing on the internet.

so to conclude, you are not a sped or any of that nasty stuff I said, not in the slightest, but you really should at least look at wikipedia before posting TRUE KNOWLEDGE.

as for what I think? since I doubt its possible to detect the presence of acrolein gas within your lungs after its left your lungs, you could never really know... I personally would just get unbleached brown papers and avoid both of them. maybe those RAW ones.
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#1233892 - 04/20/07 07:58 AM Re: Clear Rolling papers - are they highly toxic? [Re: caduceo]
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Hey man, don't hold back - tell us what you really think .

What's a sped?
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#1233893 - 04/20/07 08:28 AM Re: Clear Rolling papers - are they highly toxic? [Re: caduceo]
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IIRC MrTobaccy ended up retracting his concerns redarging this some time ago.


You necroposter you.
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#1233894 - 04/20/07 09:04 AM Re: Clear Rolling papers - are they highly toxic? [Re: Heretic]
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Hey man, don't hold back - tell us what you really think .

What's a sped?




Sped = Special Ed, as in a kid in the special Education class. = Retard.
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#1233895 - 04/20/07 01:22 PM Re: Clear Rolling papers - are they highly toxic? [Re: Ohigho]
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IIRC MrTobaccy ended up retracting his concerns redarging this some time ago.


You necroposter you.





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