Just interested in anyones experiences with DMT (if you're out there). Looking into growing some dmt containing plants and hopefully extractin it into a smokeable form. Any suggestions? Stories? Cautions? Thanx.

yeah, that shit is fucked up.



alien communications devices from another dimension, disquised as drugs ---

Have a trip-sitter with you, definitely.

I remember my first DMT flash, smoked about 50mg... it was intense... for 5 minutes I fully believed I'd killed myself and was entering the afterlife... but once I'd accepted I was dead, the trip improved, I could start exploring this new world of alien entities.

Then as I started to come down a bit, I could see again, although everything was severely distorted and covered in geometric patterns. Snakes figured big in the patterns.

Around this time I started to realize I was still breathing... that I was in fact still alive... and SO ALIVE, SO VERY ALIVE! The elation was wonderful. It left a positive afterglow for days.

So, yeah, it's both terrifying and fascinating at the same time, especially if you've never experienced ego-death before.

Have a sober sitter present, and be sitting down or lying in bed, 'cause you will lose all motor control for a bit...

Or if you don't want the full DMT flash experience, smoke tiny amounts (say 10mg), low doses are a little bit like doing mushrooms. Interesting visuals and lots of giggles (the so-called "tryptamine giggles").

Also, if doing the extraction yourself, make very sure you're using clean USP-grade solvents so there's no nasty residue mixed in with your finished DMT. If you're not sure what grade your solvent is, leave a glass of it sitting out to evaporate, once it's all evaporated look at the bottom of the glass, if there's any brown gunk in there, don't use that solvent. Or you could try distilling solvents from the hardware store, just don't blow yourself up in the process.

My first and only experience blew me out of what we know as life for about 20 minutes. Killed yourself is a good way of describing it, no question about that at all.
I think in my situation some others smoked out of the same pipe before me and I took a very large dose by taking in some of the residues left over.
Lets just say I struggled during some of the trip and when I awoke I thought it had been a VERY long time and that I would have to be checked into a psychiatric hospital.
Beyond that I actually had a numb face.
This was followed by months of panic attacks and YEARS of pondering my ego death, my one and only ego death. Thats enough for me.
I am happy to be alive.

Wow! KInda sonds what I am looking for, trying to prove my theory of overlapping realitys..

Sounds like a very intense drug, never heard of it. Can someone explain to me what it is, what the highs like what it looks like and shit? Sounds interesting to me.

im assuming you are all talking about 5 meo DMT, i think nn dmt would be somewhat harder to come across. im thinking of ordering some online.

i hear dmt is the stronest psychedelic. now ive been completly out of my mind on acid more than a few times. how do the 2 chemicals compare?

*Never* confuse 5-MeO-DMT with N,N-DMT!!! They are completely different beasts.

N,N-DMT (just called DMT from here on) is called by some "the spirit molecule", 'cause it unlocks the doors to the spirit world, for some people. Meeting alien entities is quite common.

5-MeO-DMT is like having an elephant sit on your chest. No real visions or anything... in my opinion it's little better than poison. It's also possibly quite dangerous, the brain could mistake it for serotonin (5-HO-T), and cause serotonin syndrome, or something quite like it. Nasty business. And 5-MeO-DMT is the only tryptamine I've ever seen with addiction potential, the experience isn't pleasant for most people but for some people it somehow becomes habit-forming. Best avoided.

DMT, milligram for milligram, is weaker than LSD. But a typical "breakthrough" dose of DMT is also 1000 times bigger than a typical dose of blotter acid. In my opinion they don't really compare, apples & oranges... there is some similarity between the visuals they induce, but only some. The headspace is completely different, in my opinion. DMT can be terrifying, as your ego gets ripped away from you in a matter of seconds, you will think you've died. Or at least a lot of people (myself included) report that.

Interesting sidenote about DMT... it's a naturally occuring neurotransmitter in the brain... and a human experiences two floods of DMT during their lifetimes, once at birth, once at death. DMT floods in damaged brains have been suggested as the cause for Near Death Experiences.

If the DMT is extracted from... now my memory fails me, psychotria viridis is a good source, and there's the bark of that tree I forget the name of, and there's a common grass that contains it that I forget the name of, anyway from these sources it's mostly N,N-DMT. It can also be made synthetically starting from tryptophan. However, there's another common grass I forget the name of which contains mostly 5-MeO-DMT, avoid that one.

Erowid should have the details I'm missing... it's been a while since I grew any DMT containing plants and did the extraction.

I've had the ego death with Salvia.
About ego death, I consider it a genuine form of death. For me, my soul was analyzed from top to bottom, and almost unzipped then zipped back up. It wasn't quite the same and still isn't. Within these seconds it was stripped of its defining elements one by one until it was basic and universal, and then rebuilt into myself again. However, when I truly think about it, I realize I'm not quite Adam Laughlin anymore. He's gone! I'm so darn close though that it doesn't really matter, and it doesn't upset me or anything. I probably couldn't even tell you what parts were changed. It's sort of like how DNA is un-twisted and the codes are used to create new DNA, which is then wrapped up again. If it goes right, it will be perfect. But it isn't always.


But if I were to grow DMT, I'd try to create ayahuasca. Because the MAOI allows for an orally active dose, the trip is longer, less intense, and there's no flash. You can also remember more of the trip, making it easier to re-integrate the experience into your shiny new ego.
The process of soul reconstruction is slowed down enough to allow for metaprogramming, which allows you to look at every detail about who and why you are. Highly reccomended.