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#1184097 - 08/04/06 11:32 PM
Re: degradation of CC?
[Re: JodieEmery]
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Now I want the thread locked, not because I'm offended, but because its not funny anymore. Very few jokes being told and a lot of preaching about either the evils of racism or the right to free speech. Thankfully the right to free speech camp seems to be winning. Notice I was the first to respond to this thread, because I knew it would be a controversy, rather than jump right into the debate, I took the thread for what it was meant to be, a place for jokes (wether or not trans is a racist is irrelevant). Nobody in America escapes racism. Being white and male, I have had to deal with racism and sexism my entire life. I am constantly offended by black pundents and columnists that turn every issue into one of race, and claim it is okay to be discriminetory For blacks, but not AGAINST blacks. I am constantly offended by female writers and commentators who turn everything into an issue of sex. I am also constantly offended by white people who use the word "nigger" and men who think a woman is a life support system for a pussy.
Thankfully things are changing for the better. Our culture is slowly but surely moving away from the 19th century world view. sure we have a long way left to go. But marines and infantrymen no longer wait for a male officer to confirm the authority of a female officer before obeying an order. Not too long ago my 6yo neice asked her father "dad what's a nigger?" a question that wouldn't need to be asked by a 6yo white girl 30years ago. We are not going to end racism in this generation. We are not going to end racism by locking this thread. Racism WILL fade into history along with "the world is flat", as the world shrinks and the lines between the races blur with the mixing of blood. Already, more than half the children born in california are of mixed race and estimates are that by midcentry that will be true of the rest of the country as well. Hasn't the issue been debated enough. It's within each of us wether we are racist or not. So tell some jokes, knowing they are jokes. If you want to argue political correctness, start a thread for that purpose elsewere.
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#1184098 - 08/08/06 01:37 PM
Re: degradation of CC?
[Re: midwesttoker]
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Registered: 12/22/04
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Prejudice in it's lowest form is hatred towards the opposite sex. Prevalent these days. I run across racism in that I am a middle aged white male. Alot of younger native Indians hate whites because they feel I somehow was directly involved in the taking of their land. Little do they know that I was drinking, toking, smoking and joking with their parents and grandparents before they were even born. Back on topic: How long does it take for a white women to take a crap??? 9 months. How many white men does it take to screw in a lightbulb? One, white men will screw anything.
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#1184099 - 08/08/06 02:39 PM
Re: degradation of CC?
[Re: canadica]
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Apologies in advance for raining on anyone's parade. I am an ardent proponent of free speech. I personally cannot stand racial jokes as I feel that they help foster an already racially-prejudiced world, but I defend the rights of people to make and enjoy those jokes if they so choose. That is not what this post is about. I'm not advocating locking this thread or any such thing. My issue is that I see the word racist thrown around frequently, and I feel that it is being greatly misused. I'm also an ardent proponent of using words properly, heh. While it is not universally accepted, there is a growing consensus that racism is more than just racial prejudice and bigotry. Racism is prejudice plus power. Racism goes beyond prejudice. It is backed by power. Racism is the power to enforce one’s prejudices.Racial prejudice is transformed into racism when one racial group becomes so powerful and dominant that it is able to control another group and enforce the controlling group’s biases. excerpted from http://www.paxchristiusa.org/pc_brothers_sisters_more.asp?id=993We all encounter racial prejudice and bigotry daily, whatever our races. Racism however, is a much larger issue, and we are not all subject to it. Anywho, that's my two cents. I have no joke to contribute, sorry. heh. Enjoy the rest of the jokes.  KL
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#1184100 - 08/08/06 03:38 PM
Re: degradation of CC?
[Re: firtyve]
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I am also an ardent supporter of the proper use of words (however in a living language as English, the rules and definitions change with use) which is why I have this bookmarked: http://www.dictionary.comfrom: http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/racismrac·ism n. 1. The belief that race accounts for differences in human character or ability and that a particular race is superior to others. 2. Discrimination or prejudice based on race. that was a nice link you posted, but is an opinion, not an actuall assertion of the actual definition. So people might be casually throwing the word racism around, but chances are they are using it correctly.
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#1184101 - 08/08/06 04:21 PM
Re: degradation of CC?
[Re: midwesttoker]
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I concede the current dictionary definition of racism. It is something that I am aware of, though I highly disagree. I myself use Merriam Webster as my dictionary source, but the definition is essentially the same. I suppose it would be more correct for me to state that I disagree with how the word is used in many cases, based on context. The problem with racism is that it is a catch-all word, and often perceived prejudice is labelled racism. There are many instances (not necessarily here) where many words fit a given situation, but one will ultimately be best, and in many cases better words would convey the experience one has had than the catch-all term of racism as it's currently used. This is why, in my opinion and that of many others, prejudice plus power is a much more adequte description of the word racism. YMMV. KL
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