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#1145084 - 03/10/06 10:25 AM
Re: Dana's New Vancouver Seed Bank
[Re: Dana Larsen]
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Old hand
Registered: 08/09/05
Posts: 1002
Loc: Cornwall
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I read this. Sounds like it might actual be legal to sell opium poppy seeds. I find this hard to believe.I was wrong once before. I still don't support it. ---------------------------------- The Opium Poppy FAQIn the United States and Canada, poppy seeds are perfectly legal. ... Opium poppy seeds are also the same seeds used on poppyseed bagels. So if poppy seeds ... www.poppies.org/faq/introduction/ - 36k - Cached - Similar pages Opium seizures on the rise in... Canada?Opium Poppy Seeds at the Somni-Store! ... Opium was declared illegal in Canada in 1908. Discuss This Article · Printer Friendly Version ... www.poppies.org/news/106912070445256.shtml - 19k - Cached - Similar pages [ More results from www.poppies.org ] Erowid Poppy Vault : ImagesColor photo of blooming opium poppies in a field in Northern Thailand. Photo by John W. Allen. ... Photo of a pile of P. somniferum seeds. [Canada] ... www.erowid.org/plants/poppy/poppy_images.shtml - 24k - Cached - Similar pages Erowid Poppy Vault : Legal StatusThere is some confusion in the law, however, because opium-producing poppies are widely grown around the US and Canada and the opium poppy seeds are ... www.erowid.org/plants/poppy/poppy_law.shtml - 13k - Cached - Similar pages Commercial Herb Production and MarketingIt is important to note that, in the United States and Canada, opium poppy seeds have been sold for planting purposes for years. ... www.richters.com/newdisplay.cgi?page=./ QandA/Commercial/19990119-1.html&cart_id=14660.523 - 7k - Cached - Similar pages The Opium PoppyOpium and the isoquinoline alkaloids morphine, codeine, noscapine, papaverine, and thebaine are isolated from the dried material. The poppy seeds and fixed ... www.heroin.org/poppy.html - 6k - Cached - Similar pages The Complete History of Cannabis in CanadaSince North America was considered essentially British by the Chinese, they saw no reason not to bring into Canada opium sold to them by the British. ... www.cannabisculture.com/library/history_of_pot.html - 27k - Cached - Similar pages dried poppy pods and poppy seeds. Papaver somniferum variety for ...Though separately we have owned boutiques in several parts of Canada our focus is to bring the highest quality dried flowers including Poppy pods and opium ... www.poppiesshop.com/company.html - 31k - Cached - Similar pages Salvia Divinorum Seeds Canadakava product salvia divinorum canada yves saint laurent opium aztekensalbei Salvia Divinorum Seeds Canada free herbal smoke herbal shop.com smoke. ... herbs ... www.shamanic-extracts.com/ resources/352/ethnobotanicals3515.html - 11k - Cached - Similar pages
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#1145085 - 03/11/06 11:31 AM
Re: Dana's New Vancouver Seed Bank
[Re: Spanner]
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Hairy Pothead
Registered: 08/13/99
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This makes no sense. If I log out I don't see 'Danas' New Vancouver Seed Bank Forum.'on the web site. If I log in I can see the postings of mine at 5:20 and Splint at 6:03. If I log out I see all the other postings but those. How can that be? Is it the same for others on line right now?
This "Seeds & Strains" forum is set to be viewed by logged-in users only.
I think that due to Marc's legal situation the Seeds Forum is not allowed to be viewed by anonymous folks who are not logged in.
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#1145086 - 03/11/06 11:51 AM
Re: Dana's New Vancouver Seed Bank
[Re: Spanner]
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I have a lot of concerns about the potential of your selling opium poppy seeds.
Opium poppy seeds are already sold by dozens of mainstream seedbanks. Opium poppies are already being grown in every city in home gardens and greenhouses.
Opium poppies is going to be one of the least controversial plants I will sell.
Opium poppies have many uses and their seeds are highly nutritious.
It takes many acres of poppies to start making your own heroin. With a good crop of homegrown poppies you can usually make some decent tea or a small ball of opium if you know what you're doing.
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#1145087 - 03/11/06 11:55 AM
Re: Dana's New Vancouver Seed Bank
[Re: Spanner]
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I see a lot of young people who think they are tough setting up grow rooms with the poppy. It's one thing to have a decorative one in the backyard it's another to have grow rooms devoted to it.
Opium poppies are not a good indoor crop. The amount of opium you'd have at the end would not be worth the expense of an indoor grow room. No-one is setting up indoor opium grow-ops.
Here's some poppy info for you from poppies.org
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The poppy belongs to a family of plants called "Papaveracea". There are about 200 species that belong to this family of plants. The most famous, naturally, is the species "papaver somniferum" which produces Opium, from which Morphine and Codeine are extracted for use as an analgesic narcotic in the treatment of mild to severe pain.
Its medicinal use goes back centuries; as does its illicit use. This plant is why the Opium wars started between England and China in around 1840, and why Hong Kong belonged to Great Britian for about 150 years. Most craft stores and florist sell the dried seed capsules for use in decorative floral arrangements. If you find any pod's in one of these places of business, they will most likely be papaver somniferum. You can look at pictures of them on the Internet, or here at poppies.org in the poppy gallery, should you have any doubts as to their characteristics.
There are also many varieties of papaver somniferum: there are papaver giganthemum, which are very large pod's; Hen's and Chicks which are smaller pod's that will have many smaller pod's surrounding them; and there are papaver nigrum, which are about the size of a pecan. The papaver somniferum seed pod is very distinct in its shape and texture -- set apart from other varieties of this species, and once you see one, you will know them from then on. Its like seeing a Santa Fe style house -- once you have seen one, you'll know the style if you see it again.
It won't take you long to become aquainted with their distinctive characteristics. Then, when you see some at the florist's or Art's and Craft's store, you will know exactly what your looking at.
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#1145088 - 03/11/06 02:57 PM
Re: Dana's New Vancouver Seed Bank
[Re: Dana Larsen]
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Stoner
Registered: 08/04/04
Posts: 451
Loc: Atikokan, BC Cannada
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My own 2 bits on this "poppy" controversy. A few years ago I learned how to make opium from poppies, so I gave it a try. I grew a bunch in my outdoor garden (around 30), and followed all rules, and basically ended up with enough opium for personal consumption. I didnt like it on its own, so blended it with some hash. It took a long time to grow, from seed to opium takes twice as long as pot.
So like Dana said, it would be a total waste of time for an indoor poppy grow-op. And yes there are many seed distributors in Canada, that already sell it. I do not beleive that Dana is going to start a new opium craze in Canada by selling the seeds. I think most poppy seed buyers will be curious people, like myself, that just want to try it for themselves. I'm sure the Triads will not worry about any competition.
If anyone wants to grow poppies, they will find a place to buy the seeds, wheather or not Dana sells them.
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#1145090 - 03/11/06 05:55 PM
Re: Dana's New Vancouver Seed Bank
[Re: splinterman]
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If "CANNABIS" is the Culture?
I always liked the Steve Kubby quote where he says that our movement is no more about marijuana than the Boston Tea Party was about tea.
I support legalizing mariuana on its own merits, of course. But I also see ending the war on pot as the first step in ending the whole drug war.
I have never been in this just to legalize my favourite plant. The global drug war is bigger than marijuana, even though most busts are for pot.
I want all plants legalized. This is the root of the drug war. It is plant prohibition which leads to drugs like cocaine and heroin being more popular and widespread than coca leaf and opium tea.
So we will be selling opium poppy kits. And coca seeds, so people can trying growing their own coca. Chewing a coca leaf or brewing coca tea is a safer and better stimulant than coffee beans. I am excited at the prospect of being able to offer coca seeds in our catalog.
We'll have Qat (khat) seeds too. A stimulating plant used culturally by Samolians, banned in Canada in 1996 for no good reason.
And a wide assortment of seeds for other legal, quasi-legal and banned plants.
I actually see what we're doing as fairly safe. Yes we'll be breaking the law by selling seeds for banned plants, but we're presenting this as being about plants and gardens, not just about marijuana. I hope we can broaden the marijuana and prohibition debate so that it's more about "plants" and less about "drugs."
I know of no other seed-seller in the world that offers the range and assortment that we will offer. No other seed seller anywhere on earth offers marijuana, hemp, coca, poppies, tobaccos, heritage vegetables, edible and medicinal herbs, entheogens, and other useful, edible, medicinal and mind-altering plants.
I also intend for this store and business to act as a link between the marijuana community, the gardening community, the entheogenic community, the seed-preservation community, and the anti-GMO folks.
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#1145091 - 03/11/06 06:53 PM
Re: Dana's New Vancouver Seed Bank
[Re: Dana Larsen]
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Stoner
Registered: 08/04/04
Posts: 451
Loc: Atikokan, BC Cannada
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Dana, I wish you all the best with your new website and store!! I will definately look forward to doing business with you!! (will you be selling Belladonna seeds? They make good berries.) With all the shit going on with the DEA and Conservative govnt led RCMP, I hope you really watch what you do. You are making a bold and brave stand in society! I hope this still leaves you with enough time for your work with the NDP on the new proposed legalization policies. I'm sure you are already expecting some controversy over the sale of some of the seeds you will be selling, like Spanner and Splinterman have made known.
Just an idea for your website...I think you should also add a section on "how to" make tea with opium, coca, and recipes with the plants that you will be selling the seeds to, for nutritional, experimental, and sacred use. People could very much benefit from this, for example, "how to" extract or use the juice from the Iboga plants roots. ( for those that are not familiar with this, it has been a very positive and proven substance that helps people kick addictions with heroin and nicotine).
I think you are off to a good start with choices of seeds. I send good karma your way! I also think you are going to be faced with alot of backlash from society, but than again you have been faced with this for many years already.
Best of luck Dana!!!!
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