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#1131621 - 02/04/06 04:48 AM Re: Canadian medi-pot HIV patient dying in U.S. jail. ***** [Re: davidmalmolevine]
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Fantastic ,the marinol is doing it for him.
Bill does not wannt to rock the boat ,i wonder why?
Is it because he is recieving marinol or because he just just does not want to push the marijuana fact.

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#1131622 - 02/04/06 05:14 AM Re: Canadian medi-pot HIV patient dying in U.S. jail. [Re: Big Bat]
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I am a low poster I suffer with depression But Iam a happy camper knowing Steve is getting relief with synthetic pot. He will get out an Steve will raise his children an fight the powers that be simple as that. Peace an Pot

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#1131623 - 02/04/06 07:12 PM Re: Canadian medi-pot HIV patient dying in U.S. ja [Re: davidmalmolevine]
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I don't know why Steve's attorney has withdrawn the request, but he may believe there is something to be gained. What Steve stands to lose is however-many-months'-worth of the other cannabinoids in real cannabis which inhibit tumor growth, etc. Without doubt, it's a calculus.
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#1131624 - 02/05/06 06:01 AM Re: Canadian medi-pot HIV patient dying in U.S. ja [Re: StrngrInParadise]
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I do believe steve will be let out on house arrest sometime early this week from what I have read!

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#1131625 - 02/05/06 06:52 AM To live Kubby needs money for more Marinol. $$$ [Re: testingthis]
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Don't ever forget that Steve Kubby almost died the first day or 2 in jail. He reported the worst blood pressure attack he could remember, blood in his urine, and was starting to go blind in one eye for awhile. The authorities are quite willing to let him die. They have proved that the last 2 times that he has been jailed in the Placer County jail in Auburn, California.

Michele Kubby reports at kubby.com that the jail is not paying for his Marinol, and that they do not have enough Marinol.
http://www.kubby.com
Jails are supposed to provide medical care and drugs. Marinol is a legal drug. But the authorities hate even admitting that Marinol (THC, a cannabinoid) works. Marinol is very expensive, and Michele is asking for help in paying for it. The Kubbys are broke.

Info quoted below is from the kubby.com homepage. I corrected the spelling of "perjure":
Quote:


CONTACT FROM MICHELE TODAY: 2-4-06

6-day EMERGENCY!

Michele just called me with some information.

Steve is not going after the use of the whole plant instead of Marinol. The reason for this is because in order to actually receive the whole plant, he would have to say that the Marinol was not working at all. Since the Marinol is controlling his Blood Pressure, Steve would have to perjure himself in order to get the whole plant.

Placer was going to argue that the Marinol was working and that he could keep using it instead of receiving the whole plant. He didn't want to lie and open that can of worms, so he just decided to drop the motion.

However, there are more important things right now.

Steve has 6 more days of medicine left. A company in Canada has volunteered to send some medicine to Michele for Steve to be able to use while incarcerated, but it has not arrived yet. The jail is not going to provide Marinol to Steve, an Michele does not have the money to obtain the amounts needed for Steve.

If you know of a Cancer Foundation that can help Steve get the medicine he needs and the proper treatment, please email me right away at jeremy@freecanadianparty.org and I will get in touch with them to see what they might be able to do for Steve.





Here are some links below. Many have later info on his situation. The links are also compiled at this photo gallery album for the Jan. 31, 2006 court rally for Steve Kubby:
http://gallery.marihemp.com/auburn2006jan31

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Much info on medi-pot patient, and Proposition 215 co-author, Steve Kubby's Jan. 26, 2006 arrest, incarceration, and dangerous medical problems in the Placer County jail in Auburn, California. Info on his rare adrenal cancer, and his very dangerous highly-fluctuating adrenaline levels when without cannabis or cannabinoids. Info compiled at these links:
http://www.kubby.com
http://www.indybay.org/drugwar
http://www.indybay.org/archives/archive_by_id.php?id=4140
http://news.google.com/news?q=steve+kubby&scoring=d
http://www.cannabisculture.com/forums/showflat.php?Number=1205086
http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/cannabisaction/messages/1222
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steve_Kubby
http://www.mapinc.org/kubby.htm
http://safeaccessnow.org/article.php?id=1804
http://technorati.com/search/steve%20kubby
http://search.blogger.com/?q=steve+kubby
http://blogs.icerocket.com/search?q=steve+kubby&ex=1
Steve Kubby jail interviews. Jan. 28-30, 2006. Medi-pot patient in grave danger. With his doctors' assessment:
http://www.indybay.org/news/2006/01/1799342_comment.php
Steve Kubby reports from jail. Jan. 31 through Feb. 2, 2006. Marinol (the THC cannabinoid) is helping:
http://www.indybay.org/news/2006/02/1799964.php
Cannabinoids inhibit noradrenaline, pheos. Studies copied partway down this page:
http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/cannabisaction/message/1227
Google News indexes the last few weeks of news from many media sources. Google News results archive for Steve Kubby:
http://members.fortunecity.com/multi19/e/kubby-googlenews.htm
Steve Kubby articles at Indybay.org/drugwar. Site search result links are archived here:
http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/cannabisaction/message/1229
Above links are compiled at this photo gallery for Jan. 31, 2006 court rally: http://gallery.marihemp.com/auburn2006jan31

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#1131626 - 02/05/06 09:46 AM Re: To live Kubby needs money for more Marinol. $$$ [Re: eco2man]
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I remember quite well an hope Michelle comes up with the money needed for a few days supply of marinol till his lawyer walks him out of that hell hole an into a car with a big fatty waiting for him of some good cali meds PEACE AN POT!

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#1131627 - 02/06/06 11:44 PM Re: To live Kubby needs money for more Marinol. $$$ [Re: testingthis]
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go  http://Kubby.com

Michele says he only has a 4 day supply left.

There's donation links for Visa and paypal on that page.

As well, people can contact jeremy@freecanadianparty.org
as he's in regular contact with Michelle.  I believe jeremy is updating
Steve's jail blog./including comments from Michelle.

jail blog  http://blog.myspace.com/letfreedomgrow


Statement from Steve and Michele.

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Monday, February 06, 2006
Statement from my wife and me
Current mood:  crushed
Category: News and Politics


Ten years ago, my husband and I decided we wanted to legitimize the only
medicine he knew of that gave relief for his disease, marijuana. We thought
it was a simple request. I mean the authorities always said, If you dont
like the law, change it.
Well, we did change the law along with the help of a majority of
Californians. Little did we understand the full weight of the opposition we
would encounter. The retribution and anger of those who have a vested
interest in keeping the War against those who use marijuana going, has been
breathtaking to say the least.
You see, this really is a war against people. This so called War against
Drugs is actually a war against the people of the earth. Governments around
the world are literally waging an international civil war against their own
people in order to keep us from using God-given plants to improve our lives
and health.
But governments must deny that this is a war against their own people, for
to admit that they are warring against their own people would mean that they
are tyrants. And what is tyranny? The definition of tyranny is terrorism
against your own people. Fascism is fear of your own government.
We medical marijuana patients find ourselves taking the brunt of this
tyrannical abuse with no relief. We are actually, political causalities of
war, but for governments to admit we are political is to ennoble our cause
and create an opportunity for change. For governments, this is not an
option. There is too much vested interest in keeping this tyranny/War on
Drugs going. Prisons and correctional officer unions, US grants, and loss of
judicial business in the area of medical marijuana is a loss of big
dollars.  As polite society we accept this civil War on Drugs and bow down
to the will of the government, rather than to be targeted, marginalized and
called criminals. Steve has never been afraid of being targeted.
Steve and I have always been and will always be politicians regardless of
the labels governments attempt to place on us. We will continue to champion
the rights of individuals to choose the medicine of their choice. God gives
our bodies to us; we are not the property of the government. Governments
have no right or authority under God, to force us to take the medicines or
eat the toxin enriched preservative foods they wish us to ingest, but in
this day and age, they do believe that they can tell us what to eat, when to
eat it, and how.
Steve is suffering the consequences of this governmental policy. Because he
is at their mercy in jail, he has decided not to fight, but rather to give
in to the path of least resistance placed before him. He has decided to
allow Placer to experiment on him with Marinol and Lisinopril.
I can understand his decision. He is helpless in their care. He is also sick
and tired of seeing our family suffer because of his marijuana use.  Since
he uses such copious amounts of cannabis, our family is virtually a prisoner
in our home. We cannot travel due to the illegality, social stigma and stink
of cannabis. Worse of all, we are threatened with our children being removed
from us.
Frankly, we are beyond frustration. Steves only wish is to live with us in
peace, but so long as he has to produce and use so much marijuana our family
is at constant risk. The government believes that marijuana people are not
supposed to exist, reproduce, or pretend to be anything but losers,
criminals and the dregs of society. At some point you bend to this pressure.
Now that Steve is under Placer's control, they are doing what we predicted
they would do: they are experimenting on Steve to prove that marijuana is a
hoax and a fraud. They are more than willing to put the delicate balance his
body has achieved after 30 years into serious jeopardy just to prove that
people receive no benefit from cannabis.
Steve has been on Marinol for a week and lisinopril for four days. Yes, this
combination has brought down his blood pressure, but we do not know the long
term effects. Before Steve was a politician, he was a scientist and took the
scientific process seriously. In the 10 years I have lived with him, he has
always been extremely cautious with his body and approached any new therapy
from a scientific point of view. Any new food or supplement he tried, he
collected evidence and waited to see what the long term effects would be on
his health before he ever made a ringing endorsement.
Now, his is being thrown into an experiment, not of his choice, and he is
gleefully extolling the benefits of Marinol before adequately seeing what
the long term effects are. This is not normal for him, but is he himself
after being thrown into such a stressful situation? We do not know if
Marinol will control the growth of his tumors, but we do know from studies
by Guzman of Spain that cannabis will definitely control the growth of his
tumors.  Of course, Steve is under tremendous physical stress. He has been
taken off of his medicine of choice as well as denied the special diet he
needs to keep his body in balance. Jail does funny things to the mind as
well. To be caged like an animal, especially so unjustly eats away at the
soul. But Steve is willing put his health and life in jeopardy just to keep
his family safe.
What a choice to force on a human. It is a blatant abuse of human rights.
God placed this plant and many others on this earth for a purpose. Who are
these government officials to sit in judgment of one of Gods creations? 
Obviously they believe they are above God and that they may decide which
plants deserve to survive and which are a menace to society and must be
eradicated from the earth. How presumptuous of them and terrifying for us. 
If governments believe they are above God, where is there any
accountability?
My family is in an impossible predicament. It seems that in order to have a
normal life, we must abandon the only medicine Steve has used for 30 years,
or risk continual harassment from the governments of earth. We are only one
family against a huge beast that cannot admit it is wrong about a plant
because to do so would be to lose credibility and control.
It has been seven years of hard fighting for this family. We tried to make
change by passing a law, defending it in court and running for office. We
are beaten up and $35,000 in debt from fighting this battle. We had a life
in Canada, but now we must start over and I have no idea where we will feel
safe. At what point to you decide enough is enough?
Im afraid Steve is at that point. He has decided that giving in to the
government and pharmaceuticals is the path of least resistance. I just hope
that he survives this experiment, But if he does, what kind of a person will
he be when he is released from jail? Will his spirit or his mind survive
this treatment? I dont know.
Honestly, this whole experience has been worse for me and the kids. We dont
know where we will go, or what we will do. The only hope that gets me
through this unbelievable nightmare is that change is inevitable. The cat is
out of the bag about the healing benefits of cannabis. It has helped Steve
for 25 years. I trust that the future will be different and we as humans
will be able to freely choose the foods, plants, and physical activities we
need to be in the best health we can achieve, for if we dont feel good, we
cant do good.
Thank you for your support, my family could not survive without you.
Our gratitude knows no bounds. I only hope our situation educates and
enlightens causing this world to become a more tolerant place for our
children in the future.




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"making the earth a common treasury for all, both rich and poor." Gerrard Winstanley; April 20, 1649

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#1131628 - 02/07/06 12:04 AM Re: To live Kubby needs money for more Marinol. $$$ [Re: davidmalmolevine]
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The Progress Report


Who Will Murder Steve Kubby?




by Fred E. Foldvary, Senior Editor


The theory of the state says that the legitimate purpose of government is to protect human rights. In practice, governments kill people who are not a threat to others. So in a democracy, why do the voters let the government get away with murder?

Steve Kubby is today's prime example of a U.S. Citizen who may soon be murdered by the U.S. government. As reported, he needs marijuana to keep his cancer in remission, otherwise he will die. He suffers from pheochromocytoma, a rare disease of the adrenal glands above the kidneys. Chemotherapy does not alleviate this type of cancer.

In 2001, Kubby went to Canada to seek asylum, but the government of Canada denied him refugee status. Charged with violation of parole, Kubby was deported from Canada in January 26, 2006, forced to return to the USA, and is currently in jail at Placer County in Auburn, California. Kubby denies that he violated parole, and provides evidence that a judge allowed him to go to Canada.

He has been using Marinol to control his blood pressure, but the jail will not provide him with any more when his supply runs out. Medical marijuana (cannabis) would provide him with more complete medication, but it is illegal under federal law, even though legal for medical purposes in California. Unfortunately the U.S. Supreme Court has ruled that the federal government may prohibit medical marijuana under the rubric of commerce among the states, even if the plant is grown within the state in which it is ingested.

According to some reports, it is not uncommon for prison officials to deny the inmates medicine which has been prescribed for them. Evidently, part of the punishment of prisoners is to let them get sick and die by withholding medicine, even though juries and judges did not prescribe this punishment. Evidently, this is not considered "cruel" by the state authorities.

Steve Kubby was the California Libertarian Party's candidate for governor in 1998, two years after the passage of Proposition 215, which legalized medical marijuana in California law. As a medical marijuana user, Kubby actively campaigned for that proposition.

As reported by geolibertarian David Nolan, a founder of the Libertarian Party, "On January 19, 1999, two months after the campaign ended, twenty heavily armed officers from the Placer County sheriff's department raided the Kubbys' home. The invading officers found a number of marijuana plants under cultivation - in a room where copies of Proposition 215, which made this legal, were prominently posted." Steve Kubby and his wife were sent to jail, and Steve was not allowed any medication.

If Kubby dies because he is denied medication by the prison authority, he will not be the first. Peter McWilliams, a libertarian writer and activist, was killed by prison authorities in 2000 by denying him medical marijuana to help take medicine for AIDS and non-Hodgkin's lymphoma cancer.

How many others prisoners have died for lack of medication? Why is government committing this murder? Who is responsible? The prison authorities follow the policies set by the state and federal governments, so our elected officials are also responsible for these deaths.

Why are the U.S. government chiefs so adamantly opposed to medical marijuana? Most likely, because its legalization under federal law would open the door to legalizing marijuana in general. So why are the chiefs so opposed to legal marijuana? Is it the people or is it special interests who are the most influential?

Many U.S. persons are indeed opposed to legalizing marijuana, but this is because the propaganda of the government, especially in schools, makes them believe that legalization would lead to chaos and the downfall of civilization. It is often instructive to follow the money, to see the pecuniary beneficiary of policy. In this case, prime gainers are the tobacco and alcohol industries, as well as government chiefs.

Marijuana is a substitute for both tobacco and alcohol. Legalization would substantially decrease demand for both. Both the federal and state governments benefit from high taxes as well as lawsuit winnings from both industries. There could also be excise taxes on marijuana if it were legal, but such taxes would be more difficult to collect, since marijuana can be grown in back yards and inside houses.

I cannot prove that the alcohol and tobacco lobbies promote the prohibition of medical marijuana, but they profit from the prohibition, and they do lobby government officials, so it seems to me reasonable to conclude that financial interests are involved, at least indirectly and discreetly.

But why are the voters not outraged by this? Do the people not care? It seems to me that most folks are simply uninformed. Given the imminent threat of death for Steve Kubby, the more that the word gets out, the greater the chance that Steve and others like him will be provided with the medicine they need to avoid being murdered by the malfeasance of government officials.

-- Fred Foldvary


http://www.progress.org/2006/fold441.htm




See also:

http://marijuananews.com/news.php3?sid=874

http://hammeroftruth.com/2006/01/04/drug-warriors-to-execute-another-medical-marijuana-user/

http://www.indybay.org/news/2006/01/1794664.php

http://www.mapinc.org/sknews/v06/n066/a01.html?101


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#1131629 - 02/07/06 12:09 AM Re: Canadian medi-pot HIV patient dying in U.S. jail. [Re: Big Bat]
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Steve K. should have still fought for whole-plant cannabis in edible form as an economic issue as well as one of effectiveness.

Why is the jail not getting the medicine he needs to stay safe, or Marinol? I though jails had to provide medicine to inmates? So what now if Mrs. Kubby cant afford the marinol? Steve sits in jail and gets really sick because he cant afford his medicine. Shit I think everyone should call the jail again and demand if their going to hold Mr. Kubby provide him with his medicine you F*^king Nazi's.

Tafari

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#1131630 - 02/07/06 07:38 AM Re: Canadian medi-pot HIV patient dying in U.S. jail. [Re: Tafari]
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Tafari


If people were rining the phone off the hook in support of Steve Kubby and you were the person who answered that phone,what would you do?


1) Resign because you feel sorry for Steve Kubby.

2) Break the law and smuggle Steve Kubby some pot.

3) Hang up the phone and make things worse for the person who is the cause of your grief.

I know what I would do if I were the reciepient of a million calls I was powerless to do anything about.

When people make your life miserable, it is just human nature to make others miserable too.

You can call that prison a million times if you like.

It is my opinion that will just make things worse for Steve Kubby.

But don't let me dicourage you.

Like lots of people were encouraged to phone every minister in the Cnadian cabinet and beg for Steves life.

If cannabis were removed fro Steve Kubby he would drop dead on the spot I was lead to believe.

I was skeptical of that and asked for a little less severe language to use than imminent death.

For that Chris Bennett called me the worst activist in the Western hemisphere.

Well, turned out my suspicions were right.

Steve Kubby has been denied cannabis for about two weeks now and he did not drop dead.

The question I have is, should all the people who phoned every Cabinet minister in Canada and apoligise for crying wolf?

I mean, what is your word going to be worth the next time you call a Minister and beg him to spare someone's life under similar circumstance?

How many people called the Minister and said that Steve Kubby would die without cannabis?

Turns out Steve didn't die. How do you wipe that egg off the face of this movement?




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