We've got over two hundred coming out register to vote at our community supper on January 16 at Princess Alexandra school from 6:00 to 7:30 pm.
210 ave. H south saskatoon
Free childcare on site

ELECTIONS CANADA WILL BE PRESENT TO REGISTER PEOPLE TO VOTE.
Bring your id or any bill with your name and address on it.
I don't know anyone voting for carol, but everyone I take will be voting NDP

Wikipedia. Opinion_polling_in_the_Canadian_federal_election 2006:
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Polls for British Columbia.
http://www.nodice.ca/elections/canada/polls-britishcolumbia.php

Canada. 2006 election. National and regional poll results. On one page:
http://www.canadawebpages.com/pc-polls.asp

These pages make some 2006 federal election predictions for each riding in British Columbia, and it says which ridings are too close to call. These pages might be very helpful:
http://www.electionprediction.org/2005_fed/p_59bc.html
http://democraticspace.com/blog/predictions/british-columbia

Here are all the BC candidates. Nodice · Canada Federal Election 2006 · Ridings and Candidates · Pacific and North · British Columbia
http://www.nodice.ca/elections/canada/ridings-britishcolumbia.php

Here are the old 2004 federal election results for each riding:
http://www.google.com/search?q=2004+ridings+election+results

Seat projections for 2006:
http://www.nodice.ca/elections/canada/projections.php

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Nettie Wiebe has a remote chance of getting in, and the Cons are polling up to 47% in BC. The electorate is very volatile in BC, and it is very difficult to predict, but as for 15 NDP seats or whatever, that's a seriously remote possibility.

I wish people could just keep their feet on the ground, and their minds in reality.

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Well, you should also know that most young Canadians and many older ones use cellphones exclusively, which the CRTC does not allow pollsters to call.

Conservative support in ALL polls is ABNORMALLY high, due to the simple fact that poll respondents always skew older, and older means illusional Conservative support, in this case.

Elderly folk who just want someone to talk to, people have conservative social tendencies, and those who are disgrunted by government in general are more prone to answer those annoying polling calls, so we're seeing higher numbers.

When it comes down to it, I think weather will play more of a factor in this election. Pray for a snowstorm in Ontario: the elderly will stay home, the bandwagon Conservatives won't bother voting thinking that they have it in the bag, and leftists will be weathering the storms motovated by fear of Harper's cuts.

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When it comes down to it, I think weather will play more of a factor in this election. Pray for a snowstorm in Ontario: the elderly will stay home, the bandwagon Conservatives won't bother voting thinking that they have it in the bag, and leftists will be weathering the storms motovated by fear of Harper's cuts.

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Let's hope this will be the case!

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Well, you should also know that most young Canadians and many older ones use cellphones exclusively, which the CRTC does not allow pollsters to call.

Conservative support in ALL polls is ABNORMALLY high, due to the simple fact that poll respondents always skew older, and older means illusional Conservative support, in this case.

Elderly folk who just want someone to talk to, people have conservative social tendencies, and those who are disgrunted by government in general are more prone to answer those annoying polling calls, so we're seeing higher numbers.

When it comes down to it, I think weather will play more of a factor in this election. Pray for a snowstorm in Ontario: the elderly will stay home, the bandwagon Conservatives won't bother voting thinking that they have it in the bag, and leftists will be weathering the storms motovated by fear of Harper's cuts.

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Well, that is good news.

I have tied myself in a knot thinking about all the horrible things Harper and the COns are planning to do with Canada. Billions on bombs, missile defence, police, prisons, tax cuts for the rich, and austerity for the poor.

The fact that anybody votes Conservative is strange. As for 40% of the population? What does that say about our country, our species?

Gee, I have lived through a couple of Conservative governments.

To tell you the truth, there was no difference that I could decern in my daily life between liberals or conservatives.

But really, where do you get the impression that the Conservatives don't care about the poor? Of course conservative have hearts and emotions too.

Saying that Conservatives don't care about the poor is like saying someone who refuses to feed a wild bear doesn't like animals. It may seem compassionate but it is cruel compassion to feed wild animals and make them dependent on man. The animals lose the ability to fend for themselves.

I come from the right wing of the political spectrum and I think Conservative policies help the poor even more than they help the rich. Wealth creation by far is superior to wealth redistribution schemes, in my humble opinion.

Stealing from the rich to so-call help the poor is still stealing and there is no justification for theft. How easy it is to pretend you are generous when spending someone else money.

People who have everything given to them attach no value to the gifts. You just have to step on to any reserve to know what I mean there. Give a kid a bicycle and see how fast it falls apart. Make the kid earn the bike and see how it gets shined up every day. The pride of personality is lost when people are kept by the state. Pretty soon the kept people are belly-aching that they don't get enough support to keep them in a lifestyle that would be the envy of any third world resident.

Anyway....I just get tired of seeing this nonsense in print.

The NDP have no monopoly on helping poor people. In fact to give people an easy life is not to help, it is to harm people. They will not seek to improve their own lot in life if you give them an easy life. That's welfare I'm talking about. It ought to be abolished and charity ought to be left to the church. Self-imporvements ought to be left up to the individual. They will better apreciate the things they work for like an education for instance. Anybody who can read can improve their own lot if they want too. Don't want to learn to read......good luck in life...you made your own bed....why should anybody else but you lie in that bed?


"The riches of the rich are not the cause of the poverty of anybody; the process that makes some people rich is, on the contrary, the corollary of the process that improves many peoples want satisfaction. The entrepreneurs, the capitalists and the technologists prosper as far as they succeed in best supplying the consumers." Ludwing von Mises.

Since Harper calls himself a libertarian and an economist, there is a good chance he is very familiar with Mises.

Mises did not advocate what was best for the rich, he advocated what was best for everybody and that was to understand what motivated man. Self-interest is what motivate human beings to get out of bed and go to work everyday.

That's why 40% of the population support other than a socialist agenda that has brought death and destruction everywhere the system was ever implimented.

People are still leaving Cuba and coming to America, why is that if socialism and being kept by the state is so great?

Have a look at Chevez and Morales, Chevez has already spent the state Oil company reserves. There is no money for reinvestment. The standard of living is going down is Chevezland because the man has no economic clue.

It is the poor who will get hurt the worse, just like the poor suffered the worse under Stalin and all other socialists.

If you want to do something for the poor, get rid of the government that makes them a kept people.

Still clueless after all these years?

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How easy it is to pretend you are generous when spending someone else money.

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Yeah, the bosses that pretend they are being generous paying the minimum wage when their money comes from the efforts of their laborers. Yeah, the bosses who act like entrepreneurs when they make business investments oftentimes paid for out of their inheritance.

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People who have everything given to them attach no value to the gifts. You just have to step on to any reserve to know what I mean there. Give a kid a bicycle and see how fast it falls apart.

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Yup. Inherited wealth.

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Pretty soon the kept people are belly-aching that they don't get enough support to keep them in a lifestyle that would be the envy of any third world resident.

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Yup. Wannabes who wish they had inherited wealth, and people who actually have inherited wealth. Oh how the rich and the corporate welfare receivers whine.

It is not complicated. A good economy does not depend on privileged elitist Libertarian whiners, nor on privileged Communist Party member whiners.

A good economy depends on money being paid to the poor and middle class through strong unions demanding high wages and reasonable minimum wages. Also on progressive taxation that makes the privileged pay more than those less privileged.

As long as the money is recycled the economy rolls on strong. And as long as the government gets as little of that money as possible. Excepting single-payer privatized universal healthcare of course.

Trickle-up economics works a lot better than whiny trickle-down economics.

When the NDP stops giving the money to the government, and when the Conservatives stop giving the money to the rich, then progress will be made.

A union of the NDP and the Greens (such as Jim Harris) might actually best accomplish that goal. If the egos of the leaders could get out of the way. They could forge a progressive party just as big as the relatively-new Conservative Party coalition.

The only problem with the NDP is that they don't want to cut total taxes as a percentage of the economy. They want to maintain the status quo.

But that is better than the Conservatives who want to make people poorer. As in the USA where middle-class wages are no longer keeping up with inflation.

The NDP increases middle class wages.

The Conservatives rob the middle class. All while whining every step of the way.

The whiners versus the workers.

Numbers on bottom of chart are a timeline at 2-year intervals. 1967 to 2001.

Chart source: http://www.census.gov/hhes/www/income/histinc/ie1.html
Web page that the chart is found on:
http://www.sustainablemiddleclass.com/Income-inequality.html
Related page:
http://www.sustainablemiddleclass.com/prices-wages.html

Page on minimum wage charts, timelines, etc.:
http://members.fortunecity.com/multi19/pay.htm

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Yeah, the bosses that pretend they are being generous paying the minimum wage when their money comes from the efforts of their laborers. Yeah, the bosses who act like "entrepreneurs" when they make business investments oftentimes paid for out of their inheritance.

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Bill Gates and Sam Walton are examples of the most sucessful entrepenuers. Neither inherieted their wealth. Neither stole a nickle from anybody. Both created thousands of jobs.

The labor theory of value you expound is meritless. It takes capital to provide bldgs and tools and there must be a product and a salesman. The entrepeneur uses the signals prices provide in interpeting market signals. The price charged is what the market is willing to pay. The price of labor is but a small valuation in the final consideration of whether it is worth Bill Gates time to get out of bed and go to work. Bill Gates genius provides employment opportunity for many many others. We ought to celbrate his existance everyday. Bodies attributed to that evil capitalist 0. The body count Sam Walton racked up 0. The service both these individuals provide serve the masses cheaply.

I don't support corporate welfare. I don't even support the notion of incorporation. The state has no buisness interfering in the economic matters of its citizens.

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A good economy depends on money being paid to the poor and middle class through strong unions demanding high wages and reasonable minimum wages. Also on progressive taxation that make the privileged pay more than those less privileged.

As long as the money is recycled the economy rolls on strong. And as long as the government gets as little of that money as possible. Excepting single-payer privatized universal healthcare of course.

Trickle-up economics works a lot better than whiny trickle-down economics.

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That is a demonstration of the poorest understanding of economic affairs I have ever heard.

First you assume people are morons and can not bargain their own wages. That is plainly nonsensical.

I have no objection to unions, but they get no legislative force, which is the same corporations get. No legal force what-so-ever for none of it. If a business does not want to comply with the demands of labor they ought to be free to hire a new work force. Strike for as long as you like. Resort to violence and you go to jail.

The Union ought to be free to start their own company and pay what ever wages they feel fit.


Saved money is what the American and Canadian economy were once built on. Recirculating and money credit theorys hold no merit either. America is wealthy because the wealth produced by the industrialists of the 18th and 19th centurys was not destroyed by wars.

Accumulated savings, little old ladies with money in the bank is what the foundation of a healthy economy are based on. Only money that is first saved can be invested. That explains why America is rich and India, which has no shortage of labor, is poor. They has been no accumulation of wealth in India. China is getting richer since the peasents were allowed to buy private farms more than 20 years ago. It took time but now the Chinese are accumlating wealth too.

Taxes of any sort are a drag on the economy. The idea of progressive taxation appeals to the economically uniformed but in reality the idle rich are few and far between and they hire the sharpest of pencil pushers and the lobbiests who created a 22,000 page tax code to mesmerize the public with.

500 or so billionaires in a society of 300 million. Most of that wealth is tied up in real estate and tools of manufacturing. The luxury wealth of these individuals would be quickly consumed if the were to pay for state largess.

The peaseants did exactly that during the French Revolution. After the rich were all guilotined, they masses went after the wealth of the Church, which was also quickly consumed.
Then the masses starved. They had killed all the entrepeneurs and with them the people who knew how to create the wealth all used to share in. It was envy politics run amok.

The bottom line is that it is alway the poor who pay the most taxes simply because there are by far more poor.


If you want to help the poor the best way is to get rid of government that puts obsticles in the way of them starting their own business.

Nobody ever "had" to work for another man if they did not want to. Entrepeneurs must in fact lure labor off the farm or out of the rice paddy with wages that are voluntarily accepted. How any of this is the bosses taking advantage of people so stupid they need a union leader to do thier thinking for them is beyond me.

What we need is to get the government out of evrybodys life and to live free from state interventions in our enterprises and improvements.

Wow, I just saw the anti-Layton ad the Conservatives are running in BC. The one with Layton's mustache superimposed over voters' faces as they play nonsense qoutes supposedly by Layton. The first one is "I want to legalize drugs!"

And I couldn't help but think, "If only that weren't just Conservative BS..."