Gee, you will have to link me to where Szasz writes that, because, as far as I know Szasz was born a Jew and is now an athiest. Szasz is much like Karl Kraus was in his time, or any other skeptic for that matter.


The world heaped praise on Sigmund Freud and no mainstream newspapers would publish any criticism. Just like the mental health industry today has little criticism. Kraus had to start his own paper, The Torch, in order to get his critiques published.

We now know that Freud was wrong and Kraus was right.

I know Szasz is right and the rest of the world is wrong.

You can believe in fairy tales like mental illness all you want. I just don't beleive any of that bullshit ought to have the force of law behind it.

Imagine, your beloved state actually arrests people and forces them to take those drugs we now know are no better than placebos.

That is what you support when you support the notions of psychiatry. They have that kind of power and it is abused everyday.

And somehow Szasz is a bad person for exposing all the horrors that psychaitry has put people through in the name of medicine.

Give your head a shake. Or have you been lobotomized?

That was a nobel prize winning therapy for mental illness too.

Isn't it amazing?

One charlatan after another in the long line of medicalizing behaviors and yet the world is still full of believers like you. It's the curing of souls psychiatry is involved with. Medicine has nothing to do with that!

Another common term that is often misused in psychology is 'Denial'.
You really need help.

>I seem to be the only guy here who has ever argued that it was all conjecture what goes on in the brain.

Well that should tell you something Chris. That's a big clue.


> critical of the notion that brain chemicals have anything to do with behavior at all

Hahh that is so blatantly ridiculous. I won't bother quoting any references or "heroes", it's as simple as this- go have a drink. See if that affects your behaviour. Have a lot of drinks. If you fall down and break the nose on your face that will prove my point.

Let me put it nuther wey- Shoot some chems in your arm and see if that affects your behaviour. LSD, coke, they all affect your behaviour. Or shall we now go find a new definition of behaviour?

- Simple chemistry: Add nitrous oxide to your engine, it runs harder and faster.

Or shall we also say that chemistry too is an illusion?

The brain is chemical soup. To dis-associate the influence of chemicals on the human organism is only worthy of laughter.

Or why does this site even exist

Or any medicine, for that matter

Going to have a drink is a decision that involved the use of brain chemicals.

Alcohol, so far as I know, is not a brain chemical.


So your point does not even start to make sense. I have repeatedly stated that what chemicals or drugs do once they get into the body is a matter for pharmacological discussion.

The decision to go drinking, what role do brain chemicals play in that? None. It is a matter of will. A contentious decision is made and then the brain chemicals drive the muscle chemicals to carry out the desire.

Same thing with the decision to shove a needle in your arm in the first place. I don't contest the biological and pharmacological properties of chemicals. The periodic table exists.

None of that has anything to do with the decision to become a so-called addict. That is a goals oriented behavior that is chosen. Mean are employed towards achieving a social end. I doubt brain chemicals drive any social behavior and I bet thoughts drive chemicals. Brain synapsis of electro impulse stuff goes on too. Probabaly before action is taken to arrive at whatever chosen ends.

Man is a little bit more than chemical reactions and brain synapsis.

It has pretty well been established that the science of brain chemistry is little understood. The best of the best science has to offer really don't know what causes people to have the thoughts they do.

The oldest psychiatric trick in the book. Dissent with the professional opinions of psychaitry and I am in denial. You forgot to mention how much I lack insight too because that is the next accusation that eminates out of psychaitry when the profession is under attack.

There is a good reason why Thomas Szasz has to write his own books. Mainstream psychaitry is fearful of his ideas.

It's all too late now because Dr. Szasz has always answered his critics, which is where I get the inspiration to answer mine.

What chemical reactions in the brain cause beilef in Christianity or voodoo? The same ones that cause belief in addiction?

First, its spelled psychiatry.
Second, repression and tranference are the oldest in the psychiatry book. , and I attacked you lack of insight long ago, you are as blind as they come due to the need to find acceptance of your own instablilitys.

You are a egocentric bigot. And I find no further need to attack your arguments because you yourself have done a fine job in convincing everyone here just how sick you are.

You claim that their is no such thing as addiction in spite of never offering any explanation for repeatable pathological evidence.

You claim that homosexuals are morally sick, yet jump right out and say that it would make you happy to shoot children in the back for behaving like children.

You claim to have run a 'compassion' club, yet insist that if you get into trouble that anyone you 'help' must turn themselves into the law, or you will turn them in to save yourself anyway.
On top of that you refuse to help people who have diseases like Hepatitis because they were drug users.

And you worship someone who believes you are infested with aliens.

I could go on with your self recriminations for quite some time, but your just not worth it.


You are about three steps from wearing a straitjacket and claiming to be jesus.

on top of all that, implying that Martians are bad when everybody knows that they are a gentle, peace loving race, makes you a Xenophobe as well.

well said wo.

Psychiatric insults are hardly going to bother me especially when they are delivered by you Wodan.

All you have ever done is distort whatever I had to say which makes you an agent provacature too.

You have yet to state which published book of pathology I can find the evidence you speak of in. That's just like failing to post the "Szasz is a Scientologist" link. You have no proof and you are a bold face liar too boot. You obviously don't care about proof or you would have risen to the occasion and named names instead of just slandering people you have never met. Great argument technique by the way.

When the argument is lost, throw mud in their eyes eh!

Because "dependency" and therefore addiction exists by force of Mental Health law. Addiction is found in the psychiatric Bible, not in any pathology books.

Here I will make it simple for you

1) Name the pathology book that I can find addiction in.

2) Name the person who proved the theory of addiction held water.

Put up or shut up.

Greenscale.


The same challange goes out to you.


Name the person who proved the theory of addiction holds water.

put up or shut up.


Addiction is a believe. Like ghosts, the idea can neither be proven nor disproven.

Freedom of association, the right to bear arms and defend one's property and home are what we are talking about.

Wodan and a whole lot of my other detractors pretend to take the moral high ground, but when questioned about why they themselves do not engage in homosexual acts, well, it turns out they have similar morals to mine.

Do you engage in homosexual acts Greenscale?

If not why not? Morality maybe? Your some kind of two faced hypocrite too then eh!

And tell me what you know about Thomas Szasz too Greenscale, I have an extra two seconds.

Wodan.

There is no compassion club in Winnipeg right now.

You don't seem to approve of the way I ran things so why don't you come on down and open up a club and run it any way you see fit?

You can become President of the Manitoba Marijuana Party too. Marc Emery is looking for a guy just like you because everybody hates the guy doing the job now.

The homosexuals and the Hep C people have never needed any one more.

Once more put up or shut up.