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#1101599 - 11/22/05 03:40 PM Re: Wikipedia: a new entry [Re: Chris Buors]
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haha thats a riot man i cant imagine the look on the kids face. hahaha

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#1101600 - 11/22/05 03:52 PM Re: Wikipedia: a new entry [Re: Big Bat]
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yup, homophobe. but the truth hurts

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#1101601 - 11/22/05 04:19 PM Re: Wikipedia: a new entry [Re: Big Bat]
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I don't know what kind of answer these guys expect.

They heard and rejected the advice that I gave my niece. That I prefer she find herself a nice guy rather than a nice girl.

What other adivce would there be?

According to my detractors, I should just tell her that homosexuality is as natural as the Sun rising in the East.

Yeah, all girls try lesbianism a couple of times before they decide if they really like boys. And don't be shy and why wait, why don't you give your girlfriend that you been chuming with a kiss just to see how it feels, you never know eh! Then I could give her step by step instructions on how to build one of them double dildo belt contraption things and head her out the door with a couple of condons and a jar of vasaline. I won't think none the worse of her if she decides woman on woman love is it for her. Bring her girlfriend around anytime and maybe I can sell tickets if she don't mind people watching. You know, taboo free. Quiet on the set, were ready to roll! Anything goes once your taboo free!

Then there is this real neat money making scheme I want to run by her. Especially when she's young. She probably hasn't thought much about it but she's sitting on a gold mine. Morality has nothing to do with any of this. I'll drive here around and show her that all the girls are doing it. Ther're on every corner. No one thinks none the less of these girls either. This is where Price Charming is actually found.

Taking the argument to the absurd.



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#1101602 - 11/22/05 05:09 PM Re: Wikipedia: a new entry [Re: Chris Buors]
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You can make some people happy sometimes but you can not make all the people happy all the time.
Man must over come such stereo types and stop putting all the apples in one basket.
Or else you get what we have here today and i dont like it any more than you do,but he gets it ,thats the way he wants it ,so he gets it.






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#1101603 - 11/22/05 07:10 PM Re: Wikipedia: a new entry [Re: Chris Buors]
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The problem invariably comes down to extremism. Bi-polar thinking. Black or white. You're either with me or your against me.

Moderatism and tolerance is the key.

I don't think anyone on earth wants their son or daughter to turn out gay. It's part of our natural instincts to want to successfully reproduce, and we want our offspring to continue. In general

This is a no win argument. You entered into the quagmire, you end up befilthing yourself no matter which way you present your point. Some are smart enough to know not to enter these waters. Others can't seem to learn to shut up and keep their opinions personal and private, within the confines of their own inner circle.

Then they lament the fact that they have been "outed", publicly smeared or branded, as in this case called "homophobe".

Anyone who's in the public eye should know this rule, or inevitably they will be disgraced. Hence the reason one can no longer be in the public eye, without this branding being apparent to others. You made your bed, so lie in it. No sense bickering over the meaning of a word, it is what it is, you have said your part and made your mark.

But to go on and on, is not only futile but infinetly boring. If anything it shows a hyper-sensitivity to the issue, something is bothersome. And you have continued to out yourself and give a weapon to your enemies with your attempts to explain yourself. I don't know if you'll take this advice or not, maybe the most important advice anyone can give you.

If you truly are so confident of your views, then accept who you are and what you have done to yourself, and get on with it.

What difference does it make what other people think anyway. Unless of course you want to be a politician, in which case the option is probably now closed to you. So what, life goes on. We here love ya anyway

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#1101604 - 11/22/05 08:44 PM Re: Wikipedia: a new entry [Re: tbud]
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I think you are wrong.

The argument is winable.


And if I can win it here, why not out there.

It's important to me to have the skills to destroy all psychiatric stigmatization.

That is the point of my invovlement in this debate.

Do you understand how offensive and ugly your opinion is?

This is Canada, there should be no topic too taboo to take to the public airwaves.

It's all got to do with understanding pseudo-medical language and social control.

Not to many people could withstand the attack, counter the attack and then when Bennett made me angry well, then I elevated and destroyed the moral ground on which his argument stand. He was slagging the RC Church and their moral authority. Two can play that game.

I am a Szaszian libertarian come on down and we will argue morals and politics until the Cows come home.

I read 20 of his 26 books and everything at his website too.

Psychiatric stigmatiztions are responsible for a lot of harm on planet Earth. The fear of addiction the driving force of the immoral war on drugs. Psychiatry and it's corrolerys behind it all. We are in a war. I do all the intellectual battles with the psychaitric stigmatizers that they wan to do. It is the stigmatization of psychaitry on which the uglyness of the drug war is waged. Addicition justifies all the evils of our advesarys.

All the arguments I made apply to any psychiatric stigmatization.

I get up and I go to work on this computer to destroy the therapeutic state system of social control everyday.

You can call me an immoral son of bitch, don't ever call me sick son of a bitch because that will get my dander up!









Edited by Chris Buors (11/22/05 08:54 PM)

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#1101605 - 11/22/05 09:15 PM Re: Wikipedia: a new entry [Re: Chris Buors]
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Buors, you need serious psychiatric help if you think you have won any minds here.

Dude, you are not only a classsic homophobe, but also a nut. Everyone here pretty much thinks so, no one has taken your side. All that you have destroyed is your credibility and any hopes of being a politician and you did that all that by your self, and with bad grammar and spelling to boot!
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#1101606 - 11/23/05 12:38 AM Re: Wikipedia: a new entry [Re: Chris Buors]
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I think you are wrong.
The argument is winable.
And if I can win it here, why not out there.



You can't win it here and the only people you will win out there are those who have had trauma at some point in there lives and are vulnerable to extremists.

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It's important to me to have the skills to destroy all psychiatric stigmatization.
That is the point of my invovlement in this debate.



So far you have only shown the skill of worshipping those who feed on the mentally disturbed.
You who have sufferered abuse and look to make it righteous behaviour so you can meet the inherent need to love those who practiced the abuse.

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Do you understand how offensive and ugly your opinion is?



Do you? Do you have any idea how ugly it is to practice continueing hatred of anothers life choices based on repression?

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You can call me an immoral son of bitch, don't ever call me sick son of a bitch because that will get my dander up!



And there it is, the fact that you keep pounding into our heads. That you are denying your own sickness by denying the immoral behaviour you repeatedly faced in your own upbringing.

No Chris, it is NOT ok to shoot teenage children in the back because they misbehave and steal a bike or a lawnmower out of your backyard.

No Chris it is NOT ok to beat children with a lamp cord.

No chris it is NOT ok to lock your child in a closet because he chooses, or experiments, with a sexual expression that you fear.

I'm sorry Chris, but the hard fact is that your fear of the world is not an acceptable excuse to push your fear onto others.
Take a little time out of your day and watch people. Try to imagine their lives and why they react as they do to social situations they find themselves in. Try to imagine what make them tick. Try to put yourself into their shoes.

Try to learn of the world rather then seeking confirmation for the righteousness of that 'oh so tight' little box your currently living in.

There is hope for you, you do converse with others and are at least willing to hear their words. There is still someone inside you who seeks understanding.
Learn to forgive those who molded you into what you are and then you can learn to let go of your past and move on.
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#1101607 - 11/23/05 03:36 AM Re: Wikipedia: a new entry [Re: Chris Buors]
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Do you understand how offensive and ugly your opinion is?




The only opinion I give is "Moderation and tolerance is the key". That and the fact that you should learn to either shit, or get of the pot as they say. ie you have made yer bed, here in these public forums with your inflammatory statements and your deluded self assessment. Physician, heal thyself!

As usual this will only fall on deaf ears, but at least I'll know that I stood up and tried to tell you what many are aware here- in this you have continually outed yourself and simply made it worse. You gave wikipedia tons of more reference information to back their argument. You don't seem to know when enough, is enough. But to complain about it now is foolish.

So that is my opinion, warts and all. I mean no personal offense to you.

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#1101608 - 11/23/05 04:25 AM Rerum concordia discors. [Re: Wodan]
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Respect for the rights of others means peace. -Benito Juárez

Respect the rights to fear?

Respect the rights to hate?

Respect the rights to destroy?

Respect the rights to greed?

Respect the rights to defraud?

Respect the rights to deceive?

Respect the rights to kill?

There's 220 verses from the wholly, woolly Bible (Bah, bah, black sheep sitting in the dead of dawn...) with the word WAR.

That's some number btw, that catch-22 of Totality!

And there's 400 of them squirrely scriptures on the subject of PEACE!

That's a lot of FOOD for the soul to drink and lodge over!

Let us eat, drink and make merry: it's 4:20!

1 Kings 4:20 Judah and Israel were many, as the sand which is by the sea in multitude, eating and drinking, and making merry.

WAR & PEACE!

Would make a nice title of a book, come to think of it.

WAR & PEACE.

I wonder if anyone ever titled a book by that NAME?



If the two, "WAR & PEACE" are combined, there's a TOTALITY of SEVEN!

Oh, that lucky-lucifer SEVEN!

It don't surprise me to see, that handsom devil, Lucifer to see.

Only ONE reference in Bible Land with that shining name!

Isaiah 14:12 How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations!

Thank GOD for the leaves of the Tree of Life, ...for the healing of the nations!

Ab ovo usque ad mala!
From the egg right to the apple
(i.e. from the beginning to the end).
(Horatius, Ars poetica)

Deuteronomy 20:12 And if it will make no peace with thee, but will make war against thee, then thou shalt besiege it:

1 Kings 2:5 Moreover thou knowest also what Joab the son of Zeruiah did to me, and what he did to the two captains of the hosts of Israel, unto Abner the son of Ner, and unto Amasa the son of Jether, whom he slew, and shed the blood of war in peace, and put the blood of war upon his girdle that was about his loins, and in his shoes that were on his feet.

1 Kings 20:18 And he said, Whether they be come out for peace, take them alive; or whether they be come out for war, take them alive.

Psalms 120:7 I am for peace: but when I speak, they are for war.

Ecclesiastes 3:8 A time to love, and a time to hate; a time of war, and a time of peace.

Jeremiah 4:19 My bowels, my bowels! I am pained at my very heart; my heart maketh a noise in me; I cannot hold my peace, because thou hast heard, O my soul, the sound of the trumpet, the alarm of war.

Micah 3:5 Thus saith the LORD concerning the prophets that make my people err, that bite with their teeth, and cry, Peace; and he that putteth not into their mouths, they even prepare war against him.

Summum ius, summa iniuria.
The extreme law is the greatest injustice.
(Cicero, De officiis)

Prohibition is the Enemy!





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