That was too much inforation for me.


So I just glanced it over.


The bottom line seems to be that my views are mainstream middle of the road. I did a great defence of that position against all who tagged me a hater.

There are a million people in Manitoba. The struggle for gay marrige brought forth a wopping 95 couple who wanted to tie the knot.

The numbers the homosexual community claim just don't exist no matter what the propaganda says.

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That was too much inforation for me.

So I just glanced it over

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Story of your life eh?

If you find it attractive it's all good. Regardless of how narrow the view is, and regardless of it's underlying intent.

If it doesn't meet with your approval it is too much 'inforation'.

That's right Wodan.


I could care less about the state of accpetance of homosexuality.


It ain't my issue and I could care less so the whole post was boring.

Do you read things that you have no interest in?

Why?

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Do you read things that you have no interest in?

Why?

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For the gain of knowledge. It is called education.
In order to gain greater understanding of things that interest you, you must learn things that do not interest you in order to gain a greater understanding of that you do have an interest in.

My first exposure to mycorhizea was in an article about commercial soybean production. I could give a fuck about commercial soybean production, but I have an interest in other plants. As such I read about new and growing knowledge in other related fields in order to expand my knowledge base of all things.

For instance, your obsession with Ssasz and his psylocke conspiracys absorb you fully, so you never bother to learn about the pathology behind various known chemical addiction.
You get everything you want from one of the shills who have been forced to ignore pathology and then spout idiocy that sounds attractive, but could actually lead young readers to harm.
But the hard facts are that you can't actually make a knowledgable argument on the matter because you pick and choose what you learn about the matter and as such are noticably ignorant of the depth and breadth of the subject itself.

Now.
Here is one for you. You keep stating that more then 50% of the people are against gay marriage.
Care to back that up with something concrete?
Or are you just going to keep spouting shit you make up on the spot because you feel pressure due to your inadequate skill sets in morality?

You can run your own google search on same sex marriage all you like.


Personally I could care less about gays or gay rights.


Marriage is an institution of the church not the state.


I'm not interested in education.

I'm interested in liberty. I know all about slavery because I live it everyday.

They will find the pathological cause of addiction the same day they find the pathological cause of Christianity.

What causes people to show up on Sunday, bend their knees and stick out their tongue in search of bread?

Behavior has reason, not causes, and certainly no such a thing as pre-determined behavior gene.

So why would I read such rubbish when the base of the research is belief?

I ain't writing no books and I am not looking for socialist enlightenments.

I am interested in destroying the therapeutic state.

They published my letter in the Winnipeg Sun today.

http://www.winnipegsun.com/Comment/Letters/2005/12/01/1331538.html

Court no place for shrinks

A theory like "sexsomnia" is an example of why Dr. Thomas Szasz has steadfastly argued for 40 years to kick psychiatrists out of the courtroom. Opinions on the psychiatric state of a person's mind have about as much business in our courts as opinions on the religious state of a person's soul have.

Every theory psychiatry ever had has lost when put to the water test. Only the fact psychiatry's lies are legislated into truth through various mental health acts allows this chicanery to go on. Repeal is the cure.

Chris Buors

Winnipeg

(But who's going to prescribe it?)

We have seven psychaitrists in Winnipeg. I know that because it is a subject I'm interested in.

Not one of them will reply.

Why don't you write the Winnipeg Sun a letter on theri behalf and tell them all about the pathology of "sexsomnia."

The Courts let a rapist walk out the door based on this psychiatric bafflegab.

None of it fools me. Because of Szasz....the rest of them dummies you read would be nodding their heads in agreement with psychaitry.

I think you have been mesmerized!

Shake it off. There is Schaler and Liefer and a host of other fans that Dr. Szasz has earned over the years.

And the kettle calls the pot black....you call him a shill yet I would think that you have never read any of his work at all.

So I will hand your own advice back to you, read Szasz for the gain of knowledge.

But I have read Ssasz, I read several of the first links you pointed me at. And then I took pertinent statements and researched them rather then just writing them off for the sophmoric idiocy I took them for. I then took the more reputable of those and researched further.

The truth is that in following some of the leads you provided gave me a few dozen hours of reading.
Without it I would never have known that Ssasz made major bucks shilling for big tobacco.
Without it I would never have known that Ssasz specifically targets psychiatry and psychology because that is a paying target specifically marked for denigration by the Church of Scientology. They can't stand the idea that people with medical doctorates call them crackpots.

I don't need to run a google on same sex marriage because I know what you keep posting is bullshit. An outright fabrication.
What I question is whether you copied it from a hatemongering site or just made it up on the spot with your small malevolent mind.

The hard fact is that you are focused on defending bigotry and hatred in order to alleviate your own fear of others.
You have no fear whatsoever of hurting your own reputation because deep down you feel that you have very little of worth to give others.

You need help.

While I pity you for your socially maladjusted personality disorders I WILL stand up and point out your lies and half truths whenever I see them.
Not because I have some reason to dislike you, the truth is that I don't know you other then the morally reprehensible words you spew.
But because others who are less experienced in life, the shapable young who pop into these forums looking for 'cool', are vulnerable to the babble.

And that is all it is, babble.
Not even 'psychobabble', but Psylocke Babble

You can continue to shill for big-pharma and the therapeutic state all you like.


Do you suppose Big tobacco like Szasz because of his views on addiction and responsibility?

The belief is that there is something in tobacco that addicts people to it.

That is bullshit.

Szasz has never published a pro-tobacco article that I'm aware of. He has written plenty on what a farce the theory of addiction is.

Same with Scientology. Szasz just happens to make all the pursuasive argument that Scientologist or any one else, like me, can use to strike the root of the therapeutic state.

So I welcome the challange from you on these matters.

I read the papers, that is where I get the 50/50 split in support for gay marriage. And even if the support were 99/01 what the heck difference would it make to me?

Not one iota of my life would change.

So now it is Dr. Wodan and personaility disorders bullshit talk.

You can ask Marc Emery, he has at least met me.

He spoke up earlier and said pretty well what all the information posted above said.

I have a very common attitude towards homosexuals especially when considering the demographics I come from, like right here in the middle of the Bible belt.

So why would I need help? Because I make a moral judgement that is not to your liking?

You can hang with all the homosexuals you like, you can ensure your own children enjoy the experimentation with their own sexuality. And you can join the Sex before Eight or it's too late club for all I care.


I have a set of moral codes that I like just fine. Fear, again what makes you think I fear homosexuals? I don't like them. Not liking them is likely to embolden me not instil fear.

See that is the standard lie. Where have I ever expressed fear of homosexuals?

I don't seem to fear psychaitry either do I?

I have long gotten over my fears. I don't fear the newspapers or any other media. I certainly don't fear anybody here. I don't fear going to jail. I don't fear getting beaten or robbed. I don't fear arrest by the police.

Yet for some reason you have it that I fear homosexuals?

Why is that? Because I refuse to accept them? Didn't I state somewhere that I was repulsed by them? Don't want nothing to do with them?

I said all that a dozen times. That I want to persecute them was never said. That I was activly seeking to harm homosexuals. No, not my bag. I could care less about them . Live and let live, how many times have I made that argument.

Yet all you can come up with this far down the pike is that I somehow fear homosexuals. Please explain, because I don't know what I have to fear from them. Do they have some kind of supernatural force I should be aware of?

I have nothing to fear from homosexuals. So what is it you think I fear?

In reading all these posts about 'homosexuality' and 'morality' and societal 'opinion', i began to wonder whence this notion came that homosexuality was deemed by society to be 'immoral'. The image: stone age men and women hanging around the cave and one stone age man starts banging another. what is the reaction of the others? is there a reaction? Or, for that matter, who had the first word on murder, rape, theft, yada yada ... and why? This led me on a lovely anthropological journey through church, state, numerous philosophical musings, and finally back to stone age man.

From what i read, it would appear that the 'immoral' tag on homosexuality, should really be read as 'against nature' ... and then, when you look even closer, 'against evolution' which i suppose from a purely anthropological perspective, it would have appeared to be. However, could the same be said today? Or could the opposite, in fact, be stated? that indeed, homosexuality is actually pro evolution of the species?

Nietzsche had some interesting thoughts on this:

http://www.geocities.com/danielmacryan/nietzsche7.html

"Yet the same thing happens to notions of morality. They are devised, at the start, as measures of expediency, and then given divine sanction in order to lend them authority. In the course of time, perhaps, the race outgrows them, but none the less, they continue in force at least so long as the old gods are worshipped. Thus human laws become divine - and inhuman. Thus morality itself becomes immoral. Thus the old instinct whereby society differentiates between good things and bad, grows muddled and uncertain, and the fundamental purpose of morality - that of producing a workable scheme of living - is defeated. Thereafter it is next to impossible to distinguish between the laws that are still useful and those that have outlived their usefulness, and the man who makes the attempt - the philosopher who endeavors to show humanity how it is condemning as bad a thing that, in itself, is now good, or exalting as good a thing that, for all its former goodness, is now bad - this man is damned as a heretic and anarchist, and according as fortune serves him, is burned at the stake or merely read out of the human race.((5))"


just a thought

*(as a post script to this post, i ran across another interesting bit of material:

http://www.narth.com/docs/berman.html

more food for thought).

"I don't give a hoot what Wiki links to or I would do something about it."

You mean like hyjacking every thread that mentions wikipedia in it and turning it into a sissy-bitchfest all about the poor, misunderstood former-pot activist turned anti-wiki activist Chris Buors? Isn't that exactly what you are doing right now ... "something about it"?

"Any "non-positive" remarks about Jews or homosexuals are immediately branded anti-semite and homophobic."

Not true. Nobody says nothing about slaggs against the Israeli military government and their aggressive war against the Palestinians. It's a legit criticism.

Nobody cares if a particular homosexual is criticized for being a snitch - another legit criticism.

It's when people LIE - not comment "non-positively" - but LIE about these often-scapegoated groups that others rightfully counteract the lie with the truth. You just can't handle the zero-bullshit policy in the forums because you're world is so built on bullshit.