do i engage in homosexual acts?
why, you cruisin for a piece of ass?

my daughter babysits for a homosexual couple. they adopted 2 children. one from china, the other from russia.
you will find that many homosexual couples adopt unwanted children.
myself, i wanted no children, but had an accident when i was 32, so now have a daughter in university. and am glad.
but if i choose to have no children like so many people do, is that wrong?

anyway, i won't argue with you. you fucking get off on it, and i don't do that.

does the community need somebody as intolerent as the persons we are trying to educate
but refuses to listen, after repeated tries and times wasted?
a person who refuses to seek any other education than what is reccomended by one persons ideals, and ideas? unchanging from decades ago?

with 170 million people in the world that have hep-c, and the most common symptoms shared by the most people (there are oh so many symptoms which pot helps with) but the very top are nausea and joint and muscle pain.

it's not something engineered by big pharma. (in case of cons. theary)
there have been old blood samples found with the disease. over 50 year old samples.

and even today people can get it from haemodialysis, injection guns, and many other non drug using ways.
the reason that such a high percentage of vets. have HCV is due to the inoculation guns.
they can cut like a knife if you flinch.
the blood then gets carried to the the next in line, it has been proven.

and so many were drafted without the ability to defect to canada.
so had to be put through the shot guns or face charges.
what about them?

hey man, it's around 1 to 5% sexualy transmited. more if a person is in habit of multiple partners.
and high risk for those into "rough" sex.
it's a very old disease. have you been tested?

but mister alleged "compassion" would judge those who got it from other ways.
or cast doubt on that majority of heppers that have it and don't know how they got it.
that info would escape persons that won't bother to keep up with what is going on with real people that are suffering.
i ask, why would the "legalize drugs" community need you?
certainly not to help add to the stigmatization of a large group of us, our families, friends, and supporters?

i wish i could pull szasz out like in that woody allen movie, annie hall, standing in line with Annie Hall and listening to someone behind him expound on Marshall McLuhan's work, Allen leaves the line to speak to the camera directly.
Alvy Singer/Woody Allen resolves the dispute by pulling McLuhan himself from behind a counter to tell the man that his interpretation is wrong. and he has no idea of what he is saying about his works.
i wonder what he would say....

anyway, i don't waste my time arguing with a person that just repeats the same arguments for 40 pages.
man, i help people needing comfort while undergoing interferon treatment.
i also am undectable for HCV for over 3 years now due to big pharma.
and yes not only my doc protests the high cost along with me, also a person that is in very much knoweledge of hep-c protests the cost.

you should try to study some of what doctor Benett Cecil has written about hep-c.
and how many more lives he has saved than the pathetic alleged doctor szasz will ever save or help.

you ask the same shit, the same shit has been proven.
i ask your aging doctor, what studies prove he is right. i mean in the last 50 years or so.
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Austin is a very progressive city.
much more than from what i hear here of Canada.
i don't buy your shit, i don't buy the upset the applecart shit either.
man just how small is that world you live in?

go get your last word in. this would go on for a thousand pages with you repeating a pattern every so often until a mod would impose the 20 page limit and lock this thing.

i step up.
as i said, i provide guidence and help to many undergoing treatment.

i have little computer time to waste on the wasted.
not to mention, classless people tire me.

More distortion and no direct answers.

That means you do not engage in homosexual acts becasue of your morals.

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does the community need somebody as intolerent as the persons we are trying to educate but refuses to listen, after repeated tries and times wasted?

a person who refuses to seek any other education than what is reccomended by one persons ideals, and ideas? unchanging from decades ago?

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I used to believe all the same bullshit Wodan and you do until Szasz opened my eyes.

Dr. Szasz has many fans and he himself was a fan of Ludwig von Mises. Szasz merely applies what he learns from Mises about Human Action to psychiatry.

How about Dr. Jeffery Schaler?

How about Dr. Ron Liefer?

There are no shortage of Szasz fans. He was a university professor and taught many students over the years.

Dr. Szasz is 85 and still writing books.

Dr. Schaler wrote Addiction is a Choice and names all the studies ever done. They all conclude the same thing. Self-help works even better than professional help and A.A type programs are free.

So you can go on believing in fairy tells like addiction if you like but at least you are aware that not everybody does.

I was just reading the latestest greatest at CCcult.com (CC is short form) and Marc Emery has been accesed of allowing me to rant on while his adopted son suffers dependency.

To sum it all up. This is for Marc Emery's son and all the other so-called addicts out there.


"IF YOUR HAPPINESS DEPENDS ON THE ACTIONS OF OTHERS, YOUR IN FOR A LIFETIME OF DISSAPOINTMENT." --Chris Buors--

Wikipedia can quote me on that!

"The care of every man's soul belongs to himself. But
what if he neglect the care of it? Well what if he
neglect the care of his health or his estate, which
more nearly relate to the state? Will the magistrate
make a law that he not be poor or sick? Laws provide
against injury from others; but not from ourselves.
God himself will not save men against their wills."
--Thomas Jefferson--

Everyone should really stop arguing with Chris Buors. He discredits himself with every post he makes. The guy is a kook, and everyone knows this.

Really not worth your efforts.

What is the purpose of a Forum if not to exchange ideas?


What kind of a site do you think this would be if it was just believers in addiction nodding their heads about what the law ought to do.


I see you did not pipe in to offer the name of the person who proved the addictions theroy holds water.

You piped in to call me names. Don’t you think that your mother deserves better than to have people think that she didn’t raise you right because you call strangers bad names?

Most people know that calling strangers names is a definite sign of poor manners and upbringing. I think your mom would be ashamed to see what you wrote, and I think such a fine woman as her deserves better than that. Don’t you?"

Chris, I didn't pipe in to call you names, I came in to point out that arguments with you were a waste of time. Calling you a kook was just a secondary bonus.

You arn't a stranger, you've caused enough stirs to have your name, words and actions noticed, and it doesn't reflect well. I don't want to argue with you though, and this will be my only response to this thread, my primary statement stands.

I'm a Szaszian libertarian.

What actions have I taken that do not reflect well?

It is my stated purpose to seperate medicine and state.

I make no bones about it and never have.

So what does not reflect well? That I don't believe in addiction or any other mental illness?

Well, I want the world to think about the evils of the therapeutic state.

I long ago decided to go well beyond cannabis prohibition to support repeal of all drug laws. No patents, no prescription rights and no prohibition. What is so evil about that?

Didn't you ever see the Monty Python sketch where the guy comes in an pays for an argument? All he got was contridiction.


Some people enjoy a good argument and lots of people like to just sit back and read to get a perspective from two sides of the issue.

It is not a waste of my time to point out the weakness in socialist arguments. It is always time well spent!

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Here I will make it simple for you

1) Name the pathology book that I can find addiction in.

2) Name the person who proved the theory of addiction held water.

Put up or shut up.

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Oh Yes My King, Instantly.

Sorry Chris, I'm not going to do this yet another time.
Two can play at this. Have you, or have you not, already admitted that addiction exists and that withdrawal from some addictive substances DO cause pathologicly identifiable and damage, right here on this site.

But more importantly.

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Wodan.
There is no compassion club in Winnipeg right now.
You don't seem to approve of the way I ran things so why don't you come on down and open up a club and run it any way you see fit?
You can become President of the Manitoba Marijuana Party too. Marc Emery is looking for a guy just like you because everybody hates the guy doing the job now.
The homosexuals and the Hep C people have never needed any one more.

Once more put up or shut up.

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You paying my way? Because I just got out of the Feds hands at the end of Oct. I lost everything. A library of thousands of books, hundreds of movies and countless music cd's. All cash in the bank. Everything except the clothes I was wearing.
For doing just that, compassion work, helping sick people aquire easier access to their needed medicine, cannabis.

And unlike you I never threatened to turn any of those sick people in.
Or, for that matter, did I ever charge a dime.

No chrissy, I think I'll stay where I am and continue pressing on the current Medical Marijuana law we have in the state legislature, and rebuild my life, yet again.

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The homosexuals and the Hep C people have never needed any one more.

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Well they never got any help from you did they?

1) Sure addiction exists. It is not a medical malady, it is a spiritual malady. Lust for pleasure and being a glutton about it, which leads to spiritual death.



2) Then just like being a glutton with food or any other chemical substance there will be biological consequences where by even death could occur. Try drinking about 40 glassess of water and see what happens. You will die.

So there are "pathological" consequences for being a glutton with water too.

Moderation in all things is best.


I couldn't pay your fare on the bus acrross town let alone bring you to Winnipeg.

Too bad that I required members of the Winnipeg Compassion Club to be public. If you want to hide, then you join someone else club is what I told them up front.

They were ill, not stupid. Lot's of them gave their word and then weaseled out when the chips were down. What did they have to lose by showing up in court and doing what they said they would do the very first time we ever met?

Just because you are ill does not mean you don't have to live up to your word does it?

So they turned themselves in by signing the form to join the club in the first place.

I got home invaded before I ever even got a crop off. '

No one in Winbnipeg would donate herb or grow for the club or nothing, so I had to go to the street and pay big money for Canabis. I have to eat and I like having a roof over my head too so I made a small profit. I'm not ashamed off that. I'm 47 and was riding a bicycle all over town doing delieveries all day long. I worked for my money.


In fact, the whole operation just died while I was in jail. I had managed to set one personup with a grow before I went to jail, the person was incompetent as a grower so nothing much was there when I got out of jail. The person wanted to fight with the neighbors and annoy people with barking dogs and didn't want to make any sacrifices. Project Green Team got them and now they have nothing and will be losing their home. I tried, I really did. I urged them to get rid of those yappy dogs, but they wouldn't. It took two years to acculate light and fans and everything else needed one pice at a time with whatever extra money and it was gone in a hearbeat over something stupid like that. So my heart is just not in that any more.


No one helped when I got out of jail and not one of the people I helped ever phoned or dropped by to thank me or nothing. They were that greatful.

I was so impressed with all the support for a club here I decided someone else can do it.

That was over a year ago now and no one picked up the ball.

That's why I invited you.

And you are wrong again Wodan. There were HIV cases with the club and I didn't care how they contracted it.

With only 33 members here in Winnipeg there was no Hep-C person. I never turned no one except the mentally ill away.

That was my second trafficking and cultivating charge. Next time I,ll go to jail for a couple of years if I get caught.

So someone else can bleed for the ill, most of them were not there for me when I needed them. And I don't even believe in medical marijuana anyway. I believe it is the fatal compromise.

When this life destroying experiance happened to you Wodan, did you make the "medicinal purposes" defence?

If so how? Maybe I can learn.


No one ever showed me anything here in Winnipeg.

I knew they have applications everywhere else so I had one too.

I saw Grant Kreiger's membership application form. He requires a photo id. I became frendly with a handy transit driver who was driving wheelchair people all over town looking for cannabis. Lot's of the handi transit people balked at joining the compassion club but over time the number climbed to 33. I did not accept application for anything other than legitimate concerns.

I don't know how I could have made the "medicinal purposes" defense without those applications. How did you do it?

I plead guilty so there was no need for witnesses. The only question was how long was I going away for.

The only thing that lent any legitimacy what-so-ever to my defence was those applications.

Da- Kline asked for applications, the police got those documents, what the difference between them an I?

It was reported a policeman applied for membership with "menstrul cramps" and was accepted. A female went in and claimed a male only condition and was accepted. Obviously they were not vetting the applications as closely as they should have.

The Handi transit guy had no problem finding cannabis for all the people who chose not to join the club.

There is no shortage of cannabis in Winnipeg. All the former club members must be buying elsewhere now.

But anyway, I was interested in how you would do a medicinal purposes defence without having any paperwork what-so-ever on anybody? What do you offer the courts, your word?

Or are you just a man about it and don't even do a medicinal purpose defence and take the full punishiment because your just that kind of guy?