"No one had to foricbly beat anti-homosexual conventions into anyone else. It is the normal reaction of heterosexuals to homosexual acts." - Chris Buors, Homophobe

"My mother whipped me with the kettle cord as her favorite form of displine. That's just the way things were and as far as I/m concerned she didn't so me no harm. My parents taught me right from wrong." Chris Buors, Homophobe, describing how he was forcibly, 'scared straight'.


All that I can say is, thank God Chris Buors did not have any children, as we know what lengths he would go to if his kids showed any signs of homosexual behavior.

"You look into the Wikipedia file on homophobia. Invented in 1967 by a psycologist."

- so what? the english language grows every year...another relatively new word is atomosophobia (fear of atomic explosions)...most people do not want to be near an atomic explosion but some people worry about it all the time...they think that atomic science can be immoral and scientifically deviant...thanks to efforts by atomomosophobes, vancouver is a nuclear-free zone...would you be proud if your efforts led to winterpeg being a homo-free zone? i thought you were going to wear your bigot medal with pride!
http://vancouver.ca/ctyclerk/cclerk/20030731/csb1.htm


"Why is it OK for you to stigmatize people...place them in the narrow catagory of accpet homosexuality as conventional behavior or you are assessed this moral judement: homophobe."

- unlike you, i am not stigmatizing an identifiable group of people, sight unseen...i am stigmatizing YOU based on your judgement of ALL homosexuals as immoral deviants unworthy of your company...in any event, no one is asking you to embrace homosexuality or accept it as conventional...as you pointed out earlier, it is more conventional to believe homosexuals are immoral than it is to be homosexual...homosexuals exist and their sexual orientation is natural (although unconventional)...homosexuality is not inherently harmful so how could it be so immoral that it would compell you to lock your own children out of the house for being gay?


"Homophobe is intenteded to inflame, there is nothing neutral about the word. It means that somehow you are a lesser than, a not equal to a non-homophobe who is a superior person of virtue."

- gee that sounds a lot like your definition of the word "homosexual" (a deviant who is inherently immoral compared to virtuous heterosexuals)...you cry victim when its pointed out that your own words define you as a homophobe and then pretend the word doesn't exist


"Those who hide behind psychaitric stigmatizations to lend legitimacy to their biases are mental health Nazi's."

- *hyperbole alert* if i'm a nazi for stigmatizing ONE person, then what are you for stigmatizing ALL homosexuals? i don't think you are mentally ill: you just don't like homosexuals...i think you get a special rush by defending an undefendable position and imagining you're winning all the arguments


you can type but you can't hide from your hate

>"In the cave man days, there was no rape."

Still it required the subjegation of women, people evolved and saw that it was wrong to impose thier will on others by force.

just to clarify this ... people, ie men, did not all of a sudden wake up and decide that it was probably not a nice thing to do this taking women by force thing. without getting into a history lesson 'rape', as it were, evolved into a 'theft of property' thing and had nothing to do with any kind of enlightened male attitudes toward a woman's inherent right to her own body. period.

in cave man days there was no murder either (because psychiatrists hadn't invented the word yet)

who says cave men really bonked women on the head and dragged them back to the cave? that sounds like deviant behaviour! jane goodall has never observed a single case of rape among chimpanzees (our closest relatives in the animal kingdom)

The dominate male of the Great Apes has sex with anyone of the nearby females he wants sex with. 30 times a day or something. He does it right in front of the children and he don't care if mom is brestfeeding or busy or what.

Who's gonna stop him? He sleeps where ever he damn well please too!

Man has reason to overcome instinctual behaviors.

You make it sound like I am all by myself on this argument.


Yet somehow 50% of Canadians object to gay marriage.


My view would be overwhelmingly in the majority.

You heard Bennett no problem calling my Mother a homophobe because she was against the idea of me becoming a homosexual.

So in Bennett's mind anyone who would sooner their kid be heterosexual is a homophobe.

That position is full of shit and I'll call him on that Nazi generalization just like I'll call you on it.

So when the position I represent, which Marc Emery weighed in on and said was quite contemporary, gets stigmatized, you are stigmatizing everybody else who stand on the same moral continuun as I.

I think Marc Emery made a lot of sense when he weighed in so I don't see that my position is undefendable. My position is politically inccorect.

It's like sticking up for drug users and dealer, who would do that 10 years ago?


Now I'm standing up for all the squares who are accused of homophobia because I refuse to accpet all the junk science and psychaitric stigmatizations of social control.

I know what moral authority you are basing your arguments on and when push comes to shove the moral authority of psychaitric quackery will be exposed for the charlatanism it is.

No argument based on psychiatry will beat reasoned argument. All psychaitry arguments are based on faith.

Politics and religion and stigmatizing "the other" that's what psychaitry is all about. Psuedo-medicine.

When you make statements like thanking God a person like me has no children, it has been my experiance that poetic justice will settle that score.

God forbid anything ever happen to your kid Chris but if anything ever does I'll remind you of that dig.

What goes around comes around.

So you can keep stoop as low as you like Chris. Keep up the insults as argument for as long as you like, they just have result of exposing the inner ugliness of my accusers.

"I don't see Mlmlo-Levin ccoming here to lecture you about driving that potential pool of activist away."

For every ONE Roman Catholic pot activist you can name, I can name ten homosexual pot activists. As well, most prohibitionists are from close-minded, bigoted organized religions like the Catholics, and very few prohibitionists are gay. And most catholics that would be likely to help legalize cannabis would also be open to the type of historical-based, reasonable, constructive criticism Chris Bennett has to offer. See what Jesus had to say on the subject of the Roman Catholic Church-type organizations:

"There shall be others of those who are outside our number who name themselves bishop and also deacons as if they have recieved their authority from God. They bend themselves under the judgement of their leaders. These people are dry canals."

Jesus, "The Apocolypse of Peter", The Nag Hammadi Library

Here - learn about your wonderful church you think is beyond reproach:


http://www.potshotzine.com/showpage.php?val1=18&val2=53

ok chris you win

you are not a homophobe

you are a well-adjusted guy who dislikes immoral deviant homosexuals so intensely that you would lock your own gay children out of your house and there is nothing wrong with that because marc emery says you have a modern attitude

now that you're in the clear, i do not wish to remain stigmatized as a "nazi" for suggesting that your contemporary position was homophobic...what can i do to destigmatize myself? perhaps i should adopt a more contemporary position on homosexuals...i don't want to pistol whip my children into being straight: a nice colour brochure and a good chat should ensure they turn out hetero...can you recommend some good contemporary sources to justify the immoral deviant status of homosexuality?

Well skellington,

It's easy. all you have to do is the same thing Marc did.


Recognise that people do indeed have the right to be leery of whoever they like without being tagged with a psychaitric disease.

It is that simple.

And for you skellington I reccomend the same thing I did for Bennett.

You want to enroll your kids in a club called Sex before Eight or it's to late. No Roman Catholic hang ups taught there.

It's a club where parents can match up their under eight to have sex with age approprate children so that you can make sure your kids grow up with no sexual taboos what-so-ever.


The you make sure you tell you kids when they reach puberty that you expect them to give homosexuality a try just to explore their inners selves before they make their final decision on their own sexuality.

I wouldn't hand my kids that kind of advice, but I'm not as open minded about homosexuality as you are. Make sure your kid has a condon and some anal ease with him at all times.