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#1101369 - 10/31/05 01:41 PM Re: Wikipedia [Re: Chris Buors]
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I can imagine that you are busy with Activism related things. I understand you are a busy person. Perhaps you could appeal to some forum members to act in your interest and in the interest of the Cannibus Community as a whole and to take an interest in these Wikipedia Entries.

It's apparent that you Don't give much credit to the Wikipedia, but many many people consider it a valid information source if not a research tool to be used in the same manner as any printed encyclopedia.

I haven't read your Wikipedia entry. I honestly don't know shit about your political views or your views on Homosexuality aside from whats been posted in this thread. But I can tell you that the Wikipedia is a respected entity on the Internet and that the way your Bio might read today could be much different than how it reads tomorrow. Thats the beauty of a Wiki. Its a constantly changing thing.

I for one am going to register with Wikipedia and will be keeping an eye on some of these topics and I will attempt to make edits to what is improperly represented within the next week. The important thing to note is that ANYONE can do that. So Anyone who has info for the Wiki may add to it.

Now that you are aware of this information's presence on the web (and its supremely high ranking in Google Searches, which BTW is because of the nature of the Google Search Engine and not through an arrangement between the two) you might consider simply checking on it every once an a while to see that it is at least reflecting you partially correctly. You aren't ever gonna be 100% happy with it because people are never gonna be 100% happy with YOU. But i think you get the idea.
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#1101370 - 10/31/05 01:50 PM Re: Wikipedia [Re: Chris Buors]
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You know, I got a lot on my plate already and like I said I already got a pretty good flavor of what goes on there. So why take on the challange of appearing at the kangaroo court?


I challange you to link Wikipiedia to the answer I provided DML. There I address all sexual diviants and my true opinion is expressed.

I fail to see any homophobia (which implies maliciousness) at all. In fact, I'm a pretty open minded kind of guy.

I don't care if you want to whip yourself with a mace or pay someone to do it for you. I don't care what you want to do with whatever orifice you want to do it with.

I just don't want to do it with you or pretend that all that diviancy is normal.






so at the end of the day, your saying homosexuality is a sexual "kink", nothing more nothing less?

maybe it is, but how anyone can feel and say with certainty that it is, i don't understand.

plus who should care?
that's one of the those propogandist "hot button" issues.


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#1101371 - 10/31/05 02:32 PM Re: Wikipedia [Re: Chris Buors]
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To me, the idea of two men or two women engaged in sex acts is repugnent. There is nothing anybody can say to have me accept the idea as beautiful. Beauty is after all in the eye of the beholder an I am entitled to an opinion just like everbody else.

I choose women as sex partners. I don't see anything wrong or evil about that option or opinion. To each their own eh!

I could care less what you do with your lovers. But I don't have to invite you to social affairs, attend yours or associate with you in any way if I feel uncomfortable in your presence. It's like disco music to me, there is something wrong with the people who listen to it. And no matter how much you play rap music, it just don't appeal to me. I can't even make out the words. And I don't much care for classical or Jazz. So you can send me all the free tickets to Jazz festivals. I ain't going...Boring. Same thing...invite me to a homosexual party.....I ain't going to go...Boring...nothing there for me.




Your dislike of those not like you runs through this quote. The trouble is you see some act people engage in as deviant (a word which implies you see the behavior as morally wrong)and then you take the person to be nothing but that. A homosexual could have many things in common with you, as may someone who likes disco. People are more than just tastes and preference. By avoiding those you are uncomfortable with you make sure you will never have to challenge all those assumptions you live by. If you were truely not bothered by homosexuality you would have no problem being around homosexuals. Usually there is a fear that they might get hit on, which hides a deeper fear of liking it.

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#1101372 - 10/31/05 03:05 PM Re: Wikipedia [Re: davidmalmolevine]
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Lets keep our Orwell lessons straight here.


First. I use the term diviant to describe homosexuals, transexuals, sexual sadists and sexual masochists.

You keep saying "abnormal" in place of diviant, so it is you reading evil into what I said. When psychologists speak of all this sex stuff, what word do they use?

Different is not the word that is used. Diviant is....especially in the biology books.

Well, I'm sure the Libertarians could come up with better representation that me to speak at any events, the point being that I don't fear diviants.


I pulled the 99% out of one of Szasz's books where I learned these arguments.

That 10% of the population is homosexual is pulled from out of thin air. Masters and Johson came up with that figure in the 60's based on some kind of bogus studies like the rest of their stuff.

Sex by Prescription by Thomas Szasz pretty well blows everything Masters and Johnson had to say out of the water. In reailty town a very small percentage of the population engages in homosexual acts. 1%, 2% tops. Only 17% of the population smokes cannabis. I know a lot more cannabis users than homosexuals. There is no reason for them to be in the closet for the last 30 years. They would be everywhere if the 10% figure held water.

Now about this word "homophobic." Gee it's a good thing I know my Szasz eh. That is a made up word.

Really clever too. Makes it sound as if the target of the accusation has some kind of disease eh! Medicalized moral is what that is. What word can you associate with me for avoiding the acceptance of the dominixtress?

Am I a dominophobe?

Am I a sadiophobe?

Am I a masophobe?

Am I a scatophobe?

So you see any kind of behavior can be medicalized.

Explain to me what the difference is between not wanting to associte with a homosexual person as opposed to not wanting to associate with a dominixtress? And still yet, what is the difference between not wanting to hang out with homosexuals and not wanting to hang out with those who love scat?

People who are involved in scat are after all, just normal human beings like me and you right?

Same with wanting to tie up or be tied up for sexual gratification....all normal stuff right?


Most people like a bit of spanking. That is revealing and I doubt that statement holds water either.

Personally I don't like striking others.

I don't see any of this as having anything to do with race.

Has to do with sexual preferance and choosing associates.

To me it's like the Hutterites. I don't hate them, I don't want to be hanging with any of them either. So I must be a Huteritophobe too. I don't hang out at any religious institutions because I disagree with that lifestyle to.

Am I a Cathilicophobe?

What I see from your rantings is that you too would prefer regimented thought. I believe I will pass.

The regimentation of ideas is even more repugnant to me than the scatologists.

Pleasure drug users are diviants. The vast majority do not use drugs for pleasure. When the sociologists are discussing illegal drug use do you suppose they use the word "different?"

Read "Sex by Prescription" before you buy into all that junk science out there on the net.





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#1101373 - 10/31/05 03:24 PM Re: Wikipedia [Re: Gopal108]
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Biologic diviant are not the same thing as Biblical deviants.

I have been hit on by 7 maybe 8 homosexuals in my life. I pleasently told them to get lost. I really don't fear a hell of a lot.

Alice Cooper said it best. See, when I think of some guy wanting to suck my dick...."It makes my skin crawl." Worse the idea some guy wanting me to suck his dick....well that makes my skin crawl too. Sorry.

I wish I could be politcally correct about all of that but then I would be lying to myself. No amount of scientific studies will get me to believe that is normal behavior.

Nothing I have said implies that I think homosexuals are "different" than any other human being. They bleed red.

That's why I object to words like different instead of diviant.

The deeper fear of "liking it" is hardly the motivation for my non-acceptance of homosexuality as normal.

The arguments put forth, that one guy sucking another guys dick is normal, ....man that dog just don't hunt!









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#1101374 - 10/31/05 03:38 PM Re: Wikipedia [Re: Chris Buors]
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what's your stand on hermaphrodites?

if i were standing next to hally berre, a gay guy would rather bang me than her is why i think they have no choice over their orientation, any hetro, no matter how fucked in the head they might be, will pick hally, i bet anything.


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#1101375 - 10/31/05 04:00 PM Re: Wikipedia [Re: bouttime]
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I would prefer not to have sex with a shemale I suppose.

And good to see that "classification" and moral judgement are two different catagories.

It takes all kinds to make the world go round. There is plenty of room for everybody.


Hermaphrodites would be a biologic classification.

Like I said, my thoughts tend to revolve around the blond haired blued eyed females of which Winnipeg has an over abundance. I have no ambition or secret desires.

I'm 47. Think Barbara Eden and Elizabeth Montgomery when you wonder what I would consider sexy and desirable. They are old ladies now but their equilivent abound. And for that I am greatful!







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#1101376 - 10/31/05 04:42 PM Re: Wikipedia [Re: Chris Buors]
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Like I said, my thoughts tend to revolve around the blond haired blued eyed females of which Winnipeg has an over abundance. I have no ambition or secret desires.

I'm 47. Think Barbara Eden and Elizabeth Montgomery when you wonder what I would consider sexy and desirable. They are old ladies now but their equilivent abound. And for that I am greatful!





yes but you would pick halle over me right?

you would pick madeline albright over me!

why? because you are a hetrosexual and nothing is going to change that, right?

what makes you think that that staunchness isn't an inherent trait of hetrosexuality? every hetro i know would pick her over me if they were forced.

i know nothing can change me, how about you chris?

well then where do gays come from if they're not born? from converted hetros? is it reasonable to think perhaps hetros who can be converted were never really hetros to begin with?

just the fact that these type of questions can be raised, says that nothing is difinitive, so what ever you may chose to believe or formulate an opinion on, you cannot yourself accept as fact that there is only one orientation-hetrosexual and anything else is a diviation from that.

there is no way you can accept that as fact, no matter how strong your opinion about it may be.



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#1101377 - 10/31/05 04:52 PM Re: Wikipedia [Re: bouttime]
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If one were forced to pick then what differnce would it make?

Why is this Halle Berry a shemale?


Why not make the choice of a midget or twiggy who I always thought looked like death warmed over. Someone buy the girl a meal.

There is some sort of logical failicy to be arguing the man in the lifebat scene as if those circumstances were applicable to real life.

There is always to choice to die before having sex with anybody you don't want to have sex with and that would likely be my choice. Death before dishonor type of thing.



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#1101378 - 10/31/05 05:06 PM Re: Wikipedia [Re: Chris Buors]
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Why is this Halle Berry a shemale?






LOL is she were a shemale she'd still be hot enough to bang, so that shuts me up, i guess i can be converted!

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