Who here thinks that we should legalize all drugs and sell them like we do with alcohol? That means, legal meth, cocaine and heroin along with marijuana.

Now I've talked to some people who think we should end the drug war completely and legalize all drugs. I've asked if they think it should be sold in stores and they answered yes. The problem I see is in giving major corporations carte blanc on allowing them to sell addictive drugs like cocaine and heroin. They'd love to do it because it would be a major industry for them because we all know addicts keep coming back.

My opinion in legalizing drugs is this. I'd like to see the results of the experiment in B.C. in giving away free heroin at hospitals. There I see a way we can undercut criminals who sell it at the same time, we prevent creating an industry from it. I believe dealers of really addictive drugs are only using people they sell it too and it would be the same if corporations got their greedy fingers on it. Instead we should regulate addictive drugs, by giving it away for free, but only to be administered from a hospital/clinic where you hand out informative pamphlets and healthcare workers who encourage them to quit this habit. That kind of sterile environment is much better for addicts, than one where they're on the streets selling their bodies and getting diseases from needles or sex. We might even win this so-called drug war, before the Americans do, by thinking about it from another angle. There is a problem with drugs and crime that has to be stopped, but just arresting addicts and trying to stem the flow by arresting the dealers, is never going to stop it as we have seen. It's like the war on terrorism and a game of wack-a-mole. Instead, diversion is the better method of winning this war and destroying the criminal industry by giving it away for free. It's like that old saying, why buy the cow when you can get the milk for free?

As for marijuana, it should be regulated and taxed like alcohol. Marijuana is the only illegal drug that doesn't scare me. I've dealt with it for 10 years of my life and I still am not addicted to it. My brother who just became a truck driver, smoked pot every day after work and quit pretty much cold turkey because his new job had drug tests. I asked him how hard it was to quit and really it wasn't hard, but he still misses it. That to me shows a drug that is worth creating an industry with and it has so many other uses, that aren't always about getting high.

I can't see that happening. It would be dangerous to allow the evil powders to be ubiquitous and therefore cheap. The bulk of the efforts of interdiction and enforcement is aimed foolishly at cannabis however. If it was turned towards hard drugs which are generally disapproved of, unlike cannabis, then hard drugs would be hard to find. Nobody wants to see their kid strung out on herion or crack, whether its in the streets or some clinic.

I personally oppose cannabis prohibition mostly because it undermines the message that the other drugs are in fact quite bad and should not really be consumed at all. We here generally know the 'gateway' to hard drugs is the prohibition of cannabis and not the cannabis itself. Closing this gateway would in my opinion reduce the availablity of and demand for harder drugs.

Making cannabis legal would at least say "we dont think its any worse than alcohol" and end the current hypocrisy around it. Also being available with alcohol may seriously undermine the markets for the other drugs. To kill the opiate market altogether we could just prescribe the heroin.

Nobody in their right mind, with all the facts presented to them in an unbiased manner, would willingly ingest meth simply to get high. However, since we have been lied to about pot for decades, maybe they lie about that too! <NOT IN THE CASE OF METH>

Cannabis is herb and not a drug so I think many can say they want legal herbs but not necessarily legal drugs. I think all drugs should be decriminalized but not necessarily sold at wal-mart. It is a public health problem that is only exacerbated by the injustice of prohibition just as it would be by easy availablity. If we line the streets with crack we will have many more crack-addicts so putting it everywhere would be a mistake.

There are MILLIONs of cannabis users but only a relative few hard drug users. There is no real pressure to change the CSA with respect to other drugs because their users are a relative few and they are indeed harmful drugs.

So I say decriminalize hard drugs, addicts are not served by a policemans boot in his face. Legalize cannabis entirely..ie give up on trying to monopolize the agriculture and grovelling to the USA. Enforce DUI laws and misconduct like assualts under the influence. Set up herion clinics and addiction treatment centers...like more than 10 beds per million people.

Cheers!

well i have a plan which i think meets the needs of a legal heroin market, maybe even a crack market. FIRST, these drugs are entirely voluntary to take, and entirely free for those who want them, under strict conditions:

1. mandatory sterilization. no reason for heroin heads to breed, or crack heads...

2. hospital conditions, ie, for the H user, a hospital bed, iv drip and a box with a button, similar to what terminal patients use to administer a hit ANY TIME the user wants one. Ive done enough reading on cocaine, that i understand it too could be administered in this fashion.

I guess people are gonna say im a cruel jackass. Nope, im just being realistic, people want to get high to escape. SOme want to escape life and should be allowed to get that HIGH in a safe and comfortable place. MIKEY

Milton Friedman and Thomas Szasz have argued for a free-market in substances for over 40 years.

Repeal prohibition, end prescription rights and get rid of patent protection and medicines would be cheap for everybody.

A couple of comments I would like to make .....

Words are very important.

Legalize, decriminalize and repeal mean different things to different people.

Legalize implies the state is your master and will one day permit you to smoke cannabis.

Decriminalize is more politcal language designed to make lies sound truful. The law is changed to permit smoking cannabis, but, hypocritically, no one can sell it.

Repeal is what happens to bad laws.

Next, hard and soft are moral judgements not chemical properties. Hard core and soft core porn make the point.

Diamond is a "hard" substance, graphite is a "soft" subststance when we are dealing with the periodic table.

And why would you believe the lies told about crystal meth any more than you believe the lies about cannabis? Nobody in their right mind would do crystal meth? School children and fat people are prescribed crystal meth every day. (it is the adulterants doing all the harm...just like heroin or cocaine or any "street drug" that who knows who brewed up who knows where.

Type Desoxyn into a search engine and find out the truth about Crystal Meth. School children and fat people are prescribed it every day...how dangerous could it be?

methamphetamine hydrochloride is sold to school children for attention behavior problems and it is sold as weight reducing pills......

Now go to your pharmacist and ask for the truth about Crystal Meth and quit listening to the politicians!

Did it ever occur to you that politicans not doctors decide what is and is not a medicine?

"Dangerous drugs" is a politcal designation not a pharmacological designation.

People must suffer the consequences of their action in order to assume full responsibility.

If we can buy javex bleach and strychnine rat poison why not crystal met or heroin or whatever it is you consider being the worst of the bunch.

And if people want treatment....I'm all for it as long as they are willing to pay for all that soul doctoring themselves. They managed to get the money for drugs somehow.

What a person is willing to reach into their pockets to pay for is a great "economic indicator" of their desires.

Why is it addicts are willing to rob loot and whore to pay for their drugs, but they are not willing to resort to that to pay for their treatment?

Any idea of why the failure rate is so high for treatment? Treatment is foisted on most drug users, who want to continue using drugs but are prevented from doing so by court order and threats of incarceration or worse.

I don't have to believe what the government tells me about meth, I seen it for myself from a friend of mine who disappeared a long time ago and was never seen again. Word has it, she was sent to Montreal by an infamous biker gang and is prostituting herself for meth.

There may be medicinal ingredients in meth, it still doesn't make it a safe drug to make into an industry.

I have some bad news for you.

Prostitution is always an economic decision.

If your friend decided to turn to prostitution it was for the money. What she does with the money is another matter.

My point was that crystal meth is safe when it comes from the pharmacy.....who really knows what is in street drugs.

Desoxyn in a google search....

http://www.rxlist.com/cgi/generic2/methamphetamine.htm is the very first site.....


DESCRIPTION




METHAMPHETAMINE HAS A HIGH POTENTIAL FOR ABUSE. IT SHOULD THUS BE TRIED ONLY IN WEIGHT REDUCTION PROGRAMS FOR PATIENTS IN WHOM ALTERNATIVE THERAPY HAS BEEN INEFFECTIVE. ADMINISTRATION OF METHAMPHETAMINE FOR PROLONGED PERIODS OF TIME IN OBESITY MAY LEAD TO DRUG DEPENDENCE AND MUST BE AVOIDED. PARTICULAR ATTENTION SHOULD BE PAID TO THE POSSIBILITY OF SUBJECTS OBTAINING METHAMPHETAMINE FOR NON-THERAPEUTIC USE OR DISTRIBUTION TO OTHERS, AND THE DRUG SHOULD BE PRESCRIBED OR DISPENSED SPARINGLY.


 

DESOXYN (methamphetamine hydrochloride tablets, USP), chemically known as (S)-N, (alpha)-dimethylbenzeneethanamine hydrochloride, is a member of the amphetamine group of sympathomimetic amines. Its structual formula is:


DESOXYN tablets contain 5 mg of methamphetamine hydrochloride for oral administration.

Methamphetamine hydrochloride most certainly is sold at the pharmacy......

"Dangerous" ......would you cared to quantify that.?

Like is doing crystal meth more dangerous than swiming at the lake?

Is it more dangerous than household electricity?

How about paint thinner?

"Dangerous drug" is a politcal designation. For a so-called scientific designation see the warning above from that rxdrug site.

No lure on Earth will draw people into prostitution.

People choose to prostitute themselves because they have low moral standards and prostitution pays more money than just about any other job on Earth. It is pretty easy work, all things considered.

I like to think I have a basic knowledge of drugs and crime and neither one of them causes or excuses any behavior in my humble opinion.

What is a drug and what is a crime?

Well. they are what your government tells you they are.

That's right...drugs are politically, not medically defined....and prostitution is a services for cash transaction....employment for one and entertainment for the other.

I can read "A Million Little Pieces" by James Frey to get a realistic view of addiction and the best of the best "treatments" the experts have to offer.

I love how Frey summed it all up. He said at the end of all his experiances, he decided to start his own 12 step program......

The first eleven steps are bullshit and the 12th step is just don't do it.

Gotta love the simplicity.......

John Stossel had an addiction special on about a year ago that featured James Frey....He was a great guest. Filthy rich kid who drank and drugged just a small portion of his family's fortune because they were just too rich to drug it all away.

But the man was never denied. He could drink and drug all he wanted and mommy and daddy would just send more money, then some more and yet even more. Frey eventually decided to straighten out and mommy and daddy pay for his to attend every addiction clinic in existance.....Betty Ford..had the nicest curtains according to Frey.....

There was a woman featured on that show who sought treatment for her addiction to sex.

Therapist after therapist "helped" her do nothing untill one day she ended up in Jeffery Schaler's office and Schaler told her just don't do it. So she didn't and soon enough her addiction was ended......Same thing...the first eleven steps were BS and the 12th step is just don't do it.




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Of course they should legalize it all. In fact, the government should be funding research on safer alternatives to drugs like crystal meth et al. Thier booze/drug stores could also serve to help educate consumers and provide assistence to any who require it.

PROHIBITION never stopped anyone from doing anything.
In the 30's people would make booze in their bathtubs,and now they make Meth.
The people took the risk of going blind from these home made brews. Now they will risk worse to get a fix.
We must learn what compassion is. The DRUGS arent what gives these people the problems that turn them into addicts in the first place. It's society, or their lack of being able to deal with life, so they escape on HARD drugs.
The only things that will keep Kids away will be to teach them better ways to deal with life.
But every Adult who decides to go home after a hard days work and smoke a joint or snort a line shoul'nt risk losing their kids or prison.
Sharki