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#1080724 - 09/25/05 11:30 AM Re: "Z" Strain *** [Re: Dety]
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Hay Dety you seem to be very knowledgeable about the shroomey grow process , my question is dos a incubator really help the jars colonize faster and if so what would be the easiest and least expensive to construct one?
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#1080725 - 09/25/05 07:46 PM Re: "Z" Strain [Re: shroomer]
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#1080726 - 09/26/05 02:18 PM Re: "Z" Strain [Re: shroomer]
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2nd flush is coming along pretty good, they're definately going faster than the first, but not as many at once, but they keep coming up, bigger and more solid than the first flush. I may actually get more off the second flush if it keeps up.

As for your question, I just bought a basic kit that had everything including a half gallon jar of inocculated grain. I sterilized straw substrate, inocculated it...waited, then cased it and waited some more. I didn't make the jar myself, just found a guy that sold them.

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#1080727 - 09/26/05 06:48 PM Re: "Z" Strain [Re: dickdraggin]
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What about the pictures ?


Edited by shroomer (09/26/05 06:49 PM)
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#1080728 - 09/27/05 11:50 PM Re: "Z" Strain [Re: shroomer]
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You know what? I never bothered to take pics. Right now theres not much to take pics of. I just took of 2nd flush and have it out of the house to dry at a bud's house. Just pins and little fuckers right now. Doesn't seem to be as many as the first flush, about the same as 2nd.

I didn't find out how much I got from the second batch wet weight, but once I hear how much it was I'll let you know. I'm sure it wasn't quite as much as the first, maybe only 2/3 to 3/4 of an oz.

I let these guys caps open a bit though, think I might take a spore print. These things seem to throw a VERY intense buzz, but it doesn't last long which is good for me since I don't like tripping more than 2 hours anyway.

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#1080729 - 09/28/05 06:17 PM Re: "Z" Strain [Re: dickdraggin]
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Well, Unfortunately for me my experiment is still in the jar colonization faze I predict another seven to ten daze until I get to put the cakes in the grow chamber . So I still hope to get a couple flushes by Halloween . Can you suggest a good drying method? I was thinking after I dry them to go out and get sum chocolate candy molds put a bunch of dry shrooms in a food processor and make a bunch of psychedelic chocolates I figure about 3 grams per candy . What do you think ? Would 3 grams be to much or to little per candy ?
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#1080730 - 09/28/05 06:43 PM Re: "Z" Strain [Re: shroomer]
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"Can you suggest a good drying method?"

This info can be found in "Psychedelic Links And Guides Mushroom Cultivation Drying And Storing FAQ"

"Would 3 grams be to much or to little per candy ?"

Depends on how experienced you are with shrooms & what trip you are looking for.

Entheogenic Mushrooms are an amazing life form. Mushrooms, like other entheogens, have a very particular and unique character.

The effects of mushrooms are greatly effected by dose and an individual's sensitivity to psilocybin. For some rare people 1/4 gm of Psilocybe Cubensis (a very small amount) is enough to propel them into full visionary states, with Open Eye Visuals, unpleasant stomach cramps or gas, and other High-Dose effects, while for others the same amount would be barely (if at all) noticeable, possibly causing a slight cold feeling during the first hour and other 'Threshold' effects. It is therefore important to get to know your individual reaction to small amounts of all entheogens. Be safe.

The effect-time curve of mushrooms, as with other entheogens, are characterized by a short period between ingestion and 'Coming Up', a short (but often experientially long) Coming Up period, a Plateau period, Coming Down, and then After Effects.

Some but not all of the following effects characterize the following effects levels. Please note that the minimum dosage indicated for Medium and High Doses are extremely low and those who reach these states with less than 1.0 gm of Cubensis are rare. You may be one of them, be careful.

Threshold Effects : (from .25gm - .75gms P. Cubensis)
Slight cold feeling, mild gas or nausea, nervous-feeling, slight pupil-dilation, mild visual changes including lights seeming brighter, lights having a 'starry' look, and noticing movement at the periphery of vision, giddiness, feeling more emotionally sensitive, and many other effects related to a change in neurochemistry.

Medium Effects : (0.75gm - 2.5gms P. Cubensis)
'Cold' feeling, gas and/or stomach discomfort, nausea, pupil-dilation, open-eye visual effects: lights gain auras, star-pattern effects, rainbowing around lighting, lights seem brighter, often 'more beautiful', notice movement in periphery, sometimes increased ability to focus, sometimes reduced ability to focus, visual field 'distracting', visual field 'entertaining', closed eye 'visuals': normal closed eye 'blobs' take on patterns, shapes, distinct forms, increased ability to visualize creatively, spontaneous detailed images, feelings of time-dilation, feelings of `coming home again' which is often more pronounced for those who have used mushrooms before, feelings of belonging and connection, increased emotional sensitivity, increased ability to focus on emotional problems or memories, chance of becoming 'caught in a loop' thinking / dwelling on a single thought or feeling (usually negative or painful), realizations about past feelings, realizations about how to live, gain a new perspective on current lifestyle and behaviors, feelings of connection with those around you, noticing things which are normally ignored or taken for granted, feelings of wonder, spirit, joy, sadness, despair, religious awakening, contentment and possibly latent psychological crises can come out..

High Dose Effects : (2.5gm - 10gms)
All of the Medium Effects, usually with a significantly more uncomfortable Coming Up, more pronounced nausea sometimes (rarely) resulting in vomiting, sometimes significant mental discomfort associated with feelings of fear and often times accompanying a "what have I done to myself" or "how far am I going" thought, the unpleasant Coming Up effects usually lessen with familiarity and more knowledge about the safety and character of mushroom effects. High Dose Effects are usually characterized by the closed eye visualizations being significantly more elaborate and enfolding, religious revelation, spiritual awakening, near death experiences, loss of self, talking to seemingly external, autonomous entities, extreme emotional responses, repressed memories coming to life, latent psychological crises can come to the surface, an increase in artistic sense, and intense feelings of wonder, connection, joy, fear. High Dose Effects can also include extreme time-dilation, with experiences of wall-clock minutes taking an experientially large amount of time, watching clocks or digital counters where the seconds seem to take minutes to count off. One of the most interesting effects is the feeling of awakening for the first time ever from a previous state of sleep, of liberation from what is now seen as a life-long state of bondage. Paradoxically, it is this new awareness which feels normal and natural and the previous fog which is seen to have been unreal all along. The bemushroomed seeker is convinced that, once gained, this awareness is impossible to lose, but inexplicably by the next day it is just a memory.

PSILOCYBE CUBENSIS
Psilocybe Cubensis is a medium strength psilocybian mushroom consisting of approximately .63% psilocybin and .60% psilocin in wild mushrooms. Indoor cultivated mushrooms tend to have higher concentrations. Note that potency of mushrooms can vary greatly from one batch to the next. The following chart shows approximate oral dosages for (dried) Psilocybe cubensis in grams.

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Oral P. cubensis Dosages
Threshold .25 g 1/100 oz
Light .25 - 1 g 1/100 - 1/28oz
Common 1 - 2.5 g 1/28 - 1/10oz
Strong 2.5 - 5 g 1/10 - 1/6oz
Heavy 5 + g 1/4oz +

Onset : 10 - 40 minutes (when chewed and held in mouth)
Onset : 20 - 60 minutes (when swallowed on empty stomach)
Duration : 2 - 6 hours
Normal After Effects : up to 8 hours

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#1080731 - 09/28/05 06:58 PM Re: "Z" Strain [Re: dickdraggin]
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Sounds like its going ok for ya dickdraggin.

Keep us updated with or without pictures.

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#1080732 - 09/28/05 11:43 PM Re: "Z" Strain [Re: Dety]
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Total on the second flush was 30+ dried grams.... I got more off than the first but dried them far better this time. They were still a tad "bendy", the first batch that is. These are crisp, nice and still over 30 grams.

Not much has happened with the third flush so far, I have some pins but they don't seem to be taking off like the second did. I did some mucking about tonight and I'll see if that helps. If not, over 2 oz's isn't a bad harvest for a first timer I think.

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#1080733 - 09/29/05 07:21 PM Re: "Z" Strain [Re: dickdraggin]
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Real quick question. Can they drug test for shrooms? If So how long do they stay in your system?
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