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Woody Harrelson wrote a letter on behalf of Renee right?
I didn't know if anyone contacted him to let him know about Irwin Cotlers decision.
I couldn't really find anywhere on the net for just woody but found this site www.voiceyourself.com.
Anyway I emailed the admin there and asked them to inform Woody about Renee, and I just got an email back from Barbara over there and she says she's forwarding my letter to Woody.
Maybe they'll put something up on thier site about Renee, I sent them a link so they can get the banners. I forgot to ask them if they'd display them on the site, but I'll email her back and let you guys know what she says.

Anybody else know of any other people I could contact about this? Maybe Chong?

For the record, I like the INDIVIDUALS, and discussions about racisim are good. People need to let the conversation flow, who cares if their style uses caps or exclamation points.

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Hey Abracadabra, you need to take the rest of us into consideration when you post here and tone it down a little. Can you alter your previous post still?



Hi Chris,

I have read some of the postings on the Cannabis Culture Forum, concerning Renee's extradition. I have been extremely disturbed by the tone and characterization of the Minister of Justice, Mr. Cotler, as a Nazi Jew and the Gestapo. I have been advocating for Renee against the extradition and will continue to do so, but find the anti-Semitic characterization of Mr. Cotler based on his religious beliefs to be very offensive and completely counterproductive.

I understand that you are the moderator and were also supporting the actions proposed, linking to comparisons of the holocaust.

I would seriously hope that as moderator, you would not allow this offensive characterization to take place.

Yours Sincerely,

Libby

Libby Davies MP
Vancouver East

Letter from Libby Davies



Hello Libby

I'm not a moderator of that forum, but I will pass your concerns on to others. But to tell you the truth I think Cotler's rejection of my wife's refugee claim on the grounds that he did shows little evidence of any sort of human rights ideas, and he is both prejudiced and biased in his decision.

I fail to see the difference between the persecution of the cannabis community and the suffering of Mr. Cotler's ancestors? It is shocking to me that someone who has paid such close attention to the atrocities of previous generations would be so keen to perpetuate a similarly vindictive campaign here in Canada, (particularly after the Senate Report and House of Commons report). I myself prefer the comparison of 'Witch Burner', as the laws against cannabis our based on that same mentality. I sugest you read 'Drug Warriors and Their Prey by Richard Lawrence Miller.

Our beliefs were discounted by Minister Cotler, and moreover there are certain elements of Minister Cotler's religion (laws against paganism, witches, etc.) which would require him to be prejudiced against my wife's case, and I believe this can and does influence him. Have you ever read the Torah? I have and it would be banned as hate literature if it were written today, (murder of homosexuals, cheating wives, disobedient children, practicing other religions as well as condoning and mandating the slaughter and robbery of other cultures). (These same prejudicems are at the root of the Bush Administrations war on cannabis and comes from their Christian bias). My book that deals with this topic matter Sex, Drugs, Violence and the Bible was favorably reviewed in the London England Sunday Times, http://www.cannabis.net/articles/jesus-cannabis.html, so I do in fact know what I am talking about here. I have no prejudicem against any race what-so-ever, but I do disagree with certain ideologies and see them as the root of much of the World's trouble, and this includes the War on Drugs of which my family is a victim.

Moreover, Renee and I are both sacramental users of cannabis and it is a part of our Gnostic faith, and Cotler, although aware of this. failed to recognize a basic Charter right in his decison against my wife. For details on the religous use of cannabis see Leah Spicer's HISTORICAL AND CULTURAL USES OF CANNABIS AND THE CANADIAN "MARIJUANA CLASH", Prepared For The Senate Special Committee On Illegal Drugs, http://www.parl.gc.ca/37/1/parlbus/commbus/senate/com-e/ille-e/library-e/Spicer-e.htm

If you paid attention to the war on marijuana and the suffering and scapegoating it has caused, you would see how the comparison does in fact hold. People have suffered in jail, families have been ruined and children taken from their parents. We are the victims here and Irwin Cotler is the perpetuator of cultural persecution.

I'm sorry this has caused you consternation. Since 1955, authorities worldwide, have charged or arrested or incarcerated (and in several thousand cases, murdered) 24,000,000 people over cannabis. These numbers are tantamount to cultural warfare of a huge and prolonged proportion, and we feel Mr. Cotler should be sensitive to pogroms of this scope and tragedy, of which my wife is a victim among many.

However, for purposes of political harmoney, I certainly want to not offend allies, so I shall keep my disagreements tasteful and encourage others to do so also

Respectfully

Chris Bennett

It's amazing how some people refuse to draw the parallels, between the way Jews suffered in the holocost and how the Marijuana people who suffer today.
Being jailed for what you believe
Having your assets taken from you
Jailing sick people, and then refusing them treatment.
Breaking families apart.
Misinformation and hate propoganda
People dying.....

Yup sounds familiar to me!


I think it's scary for some people to look at it that way. They just don't want to beleive it. Good letter Chris, you stood your ground.

First I want to say great letter Chris!


Yes the Individuals are upset about what is going on and there have been some flair ups in here....and I can't say I don’t blame them....I to have been belittled because I'm not what others want to see in front of a camera or speaking...got to have a man in a shirt and tie...short hair...that’s the guy who is going to get things done. That’s the man that has got us 10 states with medical marijuana laws in the last 30 years....3 states every ten years. Now the FED's are hitting Cali....30 years of the suit and tie progress.

Find me a guy in a suit and tie that wants this job...and he can have it...I don't need it...and not sure if I want it anymore.

First, I will say that Libby is awesome and she is one of the few legislators who actually has credibility with the movement. She has materially helped to move the Canadian drug policy debate forward and I trust she will in the future as well.

I'm quite split on the issue of whether one should use Naziism as a metaphor for Renee's case. I think the metaphor is apt -- a war against a culture prejudiced on hate, ignorance and fear... State-sanctioned rounding up and imprisonment of millions of these people... And I don't think there's anything inherently anti-Semitic involved in drawing that comparison. Indeed, if we put Naziism up on a pedestal in terms of hate, ignorance and fear, and refuse to examine its parallels with circumstances that exist today, we are in danger of losing the entire lessons that period should have taught us. Hitler was not a super-villain from another planet, he was a man who hated. And the culture of the time went along with that hate and ignorance. It took more than just Hitler to persecute and murder the Jews.

Having said that, on the whole, I don't think your average North American citizen's world view and intellectual curiosity is nuanced enough to comfortably see those comparisons.

If Libby is actually doing something to try and help Renee, and she feels that such comparisons would make her efforts more difficult or impossible, then maybe all such comparisons should be removed from these threads. Like Kirk said, not because they're inapt, but because the public thinks they're not comparable. It's not lightly that I would advocate removing thoughtful discussion, either, but... do we want to be right or do we want Renee to be allowed to stay in Canada?

The suit and tie crap is some what of the problem because they play the game with ties and suits.
The real battle stands with the average person so dont let the ties getcha.
Libby look deep into the crystal ship your working on see the lies all tied to thrive on inocent lives.