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Me like.

I don't know about the kids though and the face painting. People might see that as trying to get kids into pot, and we could get bad press because of that.

Actually I think we should keep 16 and over or at least those old enough to vote.

By having a rally we are not trying to conivince anyone to smoke pot we are trying to educate them about pot and teach them the truth and not the lies that they are taught by the DARE program and by shady cops that speak to them in their schools. People are split on weather kids should be in attendance but as far as I am concerned kids need to be told the truth and we are the ones to set them straight.

"Actually I think we should keep 16 and over or at least those old enough to vote."

Some of us here are not in denial of the frequency of teen cannabis use. Some of us here do not buy into the myth of "cannabis is inherently harmful to vulnerable groups". Some of us don't play the "parental hysteria" games the state wants us to play.

My feelings are that if you are old enough to get busted for it, you're old enough to protest.

So it's a good idea to have kids there? It's a rally where people could get arrested etc. I don't think it's entirely safe for (little kids).
Teens were at the last Fill the Hill but not children. When everyone is hugging David while he's passing out hash, who wants a kid to get trampled in the mess? What if someone gets arrested with thier kid there? I think this is better left to adults (a protest), or those who are responsible for only themselves.
I think there should at least be a hieght restriction. LOL.
I was not feeding into any hysteria.
But just becuase I'm not and you don't mean the press wont.
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People might see that as trying to get kids into pot, and we could get bad press because of that.

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I said 'people' not me, but thanks for assuming I meant myself.

"So it's a good idea to have kids there?"

Nobody is ordering-out for kids .... they tend to come to these things all by themselves, or else are brought by their parents.







"It's a rally where people could get arrested etc."

MLK joined with the kids (who themselves were civil disobedients and arrested) during the Civil Rights battles of the 1950's and 1960's:


http://www.npr.org/programs/tavis/features/2004/dec/overcome_book/blurb200.jpg
Policemen lead school children to jail for protesting discrimination in Birmingham, Ala., 1963.
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=4193803


http://www.stanford.edu/group/King/liberation_curriculum/images/children2.gif

http://www.stanford.edu/group/King/liberation_curriculum/childrenscrusade/lesson3.htm




"I don't think it's entirely safe for (little kids)."

What's more unsafe ... protesting the drug war, or NOT protesting the drug war? Perhaps it's not your call to make. Perhaps it's up to each individual, no matter what age they are.






"Teens were at the last Fill the Hill but not children."

Parents bring their kids all the time - in both Edmonton and Vancouver rallies.


http://photoeast.ca/images/id_4875_1428_kid.jpg
Cannabis Day Picnic, 2004

You gonna tell this family to leave?




http://www.narconon-vancouver.org/tow-youth.jpg

Or this one?



Some cultures don't share your fears:


http://paranoia.lycaeum.org/marijuana/images/rasta-kids.jpg






"When everyone is hugging David while he's passing out hash, who wants a kid to get trampled in the mess?"

Hugging is only when the cops try a bust - kids generally will get out of the way for that. I was once unarrested in Edmonton by 3 (small) teens and a guy with a video camera. Kids arn't waiting around making no decisions before they can vote - they're living their lives right now. Who are you to decide what they can risk and what they can protest?






"What if someone gets arrested with thier kid there?"

Better during the day at a pot rally than late at night when nobody else is around to help.






"I think this is better left to adults (a protest), or those who are responsible for only themselves."

So are you going to ask all under-eighteens to leave? That's a bit drastic, don't you think? No families and no teens at a pot protest means that at least half of the people currently going will not be able to attend future rallies.





"I think there should at least be a hieght restriction. LOL.
I was not feeding into any hysteria.
But just becuase I'm not and you don't mean the press wont."

If you ban kids at the rally, THAT will become the news. Then you will be asked why cannabis is OK for adults but not for kids, and any affirmative answer to that will be full of lies and bullshit.

Okay, point taken. Agreed.
But I don't think the press will say "Kids Banned from a Pot Rally - The Injustice!"
I think they'd spin it more like this:
"Kids being encouraged to use pot at Rally"
That's them, not me.

What age did YOU start smoking pot?

I started at 14 years old.

Let's play a game, shall we? You write all the reasons a 14 year old shouldn't smoke cannabis, and I'll write all the reasons a 14 year old should smoke. Let's see who has the longer list. Let's see who writes BULLSHIT and who writes the truth.

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Let's play a game, shall we? You write all the reasons a 14 year old shouldn't smoke cannabis, and I'll write all the reasons a 14 year old should smoke. Let's see who has the longer list. Let's see who writes BULLSHIT and who writes the truth.

Wanna play that game?

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Fuck no!
I started at 14.
I don't know any reasons why a 14 year old should or shouldn't smoke pot.
I was debating on whether to bring little ones to a rally.
I didn't say I'd spin it that way I said the media would.

Mothers and fathers smoke pot - most young children don't, but they aren't harmed by being around people who do smoke pot. That point should be stressed. No newspaper is going to say small kids are partaking of the herb unless they are. If they do, they can be sued for lying.

END OF CONVERSATION.

Move on with discussion about the next rally, not this debate.