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#1022012 - 06/25/05 09:11 AM
Re: Ottawa, Canada. Parliament Hill rally
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Carpal Tunnel
Registered: 06/26/01
Posts: 2708
Loc: Ontario, Cannabis
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Frank D was on to something when he brought up creating a rally including kids. I think one solution to the kid problem is to create a venue where kids are specifically involved.
To clarify, I was talking about an event that is designed to be comfortable for the mainstream to attend (families, babies, elderly), *not* a smoke-out. A "Cannabis Information Day" marketed to the general public.
*IF* there was toking at the event it would be in a designated area away from where the information area is located. Anything that would make the public uncomforatable at this type of event would be contrary to the goal of reaching the public with our message.
I question the value of most cannabis rallies as they currently are held. If we look at the priority goals for advancing this movement (education of the public, politicians, and the media) how effective are rallies really? A minute on the news showing some young kid toking? Does that help us or hurt us in the public eye? Can anyone point to some tangible positive outcomes?
Rallies DO have value. They are good for getting fellow tokers out of the closet, and they build a greater sense of community, but *how much* does that benefit us (relative to other tactics)? Where is the activist recruitment efforts to get newcomers more involved?
IMO, rallies need to move away from the smoke-out oriented format. We need to design rallies around priority goals, not just default to a smoke-out and make other efforts fit with it. We need to provide an atmosphere of inclusivity rather than combativeness, and actually reach people other than the "choir".
- FrankD
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#1022013 - 06/25/05 11:19 AM
Re: Ottawa, Canada. Parliament Hill rally
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Ganja God
Registered: 04/20/02
Posts: 5534
Loc: Retired
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Last thing, I'l been trying to nail down a time with Tim and others to have an evaluation meeting so we can get on with planning, and we've picked Canada Day as I am already having a backyard BBQ and Tim will be in the city then. I figure we'll start at 4 pm so we can have a two hour talk before my friends get here. Anyone wanting to come, pig out, have great conversation and light off some fireworks in the parking lot across the street, can PM me and I'll give them the details!
Thank you again, Joey, for getting this meeting together!
I'll be in Toronto on July 1st for this meeting, and I hope all interested organizers are able to attend. Send Joey a PM for details.
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#1022014 - 06/25/05 11:24 AM
Re: Ottawa, Canada. Parliament Hill rally
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Ganja God
Registered: 04/20/02
Posts: 5534
Loc: Retired
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[IMO, rallies need to move away from the smoke-out oriented format. We need to design rallies around priority goals, not just default to a smoke-out and make other efforts fit with it. We need to provide an atmosphere of inclusivity rather than combativeness, and actually reach people other than the "choir".
Oddly, I said this just yesterday to a friend (after listening to Jian Ghomeshi on CBC's Sounds Like Canada talking about Pride Day). We need to create an event that families are comfortable attending with their children.
There will always be a certain amount of smoking going on (medical patients will be attending and will need to medicate) but we need to shift the focus of the event (and the media's perception of the event) to something other than just flagrant usage.
We need ideas. Hope you can make it to Joey's BBQ!
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#1022015 - 06/25/05 08:31 PM
Re: Ottawa, Canada. Parliament Hill rally
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Enthusiast
Registered: 09/30/04
Posts: 202
Loc: Ontario
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To clarify, I was talking about an event that is designed to be comfortable for the mainstream to attend (families, babies, elderly), *not* a smoke-out. A "Cannabis Information Day" marketed to the general public.
I'm with you there. I was just plugging my festival ... Another idea I got was to do a hemp day, I've been working with hemp longer than weed, and it's widely accepted by plenty of non-smokers. There are lots of local companies, that I can contact that would jump on board. Lot's of other vendors I met. Cool Hemp, Ruth's, Hempola Farms does a family day that's really great, No smoking. We could re-create that at Queen's Park plus have a special tent off to the side, sponsored by the compassion clubs, for people to sit and have a smoke. If we work towards a day next year we could really pull something great off. I'd be willing to take this on too, if I had support. This year is too late, it takes a long time planning. The festival I'm doing at the end of summer will be encouraging smoking, but I still don't want people to not bring their kids. I went to festivals and camping with my parents when I was a kid and they drank and smoked and had a good time, and I never noticed anything except that we were having a good time. Rallies and educational days are different. It definately a more serious tone. Anyway, while we have the freedom, we should have rallies, parties, educational days and as much as we can get away with so nobody gets excluded. Hemp is a great stepping stone... people have stopped fearing it. Heck you can buy it at Llobaws next to the eggs and cheese!
But anyway, this thread is about THC Rally, so back to planning.... The Cannaba Day BBQ is on at my house (Friday). Anyone in town who wants to bang heads at a meeting at 4pm or come pig out ay 6pm- send me a pm and I'll give you directions!
Anyone coming to this meeting, come prepared with something to say. A list of observations, some ideas for next year, feedback you've heard from others, examples of other rallies and how they're run, fundraising ideas, recruiting ideas, marketing ideas etc. There's huge potential here and we can't let time slip by! Next year's gonna be 4 times as big or more! We may not fill that hill next year, but we will soon. Or maybe we will, and then what will we do the years to come? Fill the hill, streets, cafes and every other merchants pockets? Yeah parliament won't stop this train if there's potential in it!
Next rally is in Hamilton at Up In Smoke Cafe - Canabian Day 2 is gonna rock! Especially now that Chris got busted for some roaches in his ashtray! Saturday August 20th - Sunday August 21st 2005 For more details visit upinsmokecafe.ca !
Edited by puff mama (06/25/05 08:36 PM)
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#1022018 - 06/26/05 12:19 AM
Re: Ottawa, Canada. Parliament Hill rally
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Pooh-Bah
Registered: 11/29/00
Posts: 1958
Loc: Amerika, land of the Free? Ha!...
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The tif image you attached is difficult to view. At least on my PC. I suggest converting it to a jpg file. It is easy to do with the freeware IrfanView. http://www.irfanview.comI would do it, but I have hundreds of GMM/MMM posters, photos, etc. to work on first. Once converted and attached here just click on "image" in the "instant UBB Code" spot below the message composing window.
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#1022019 - 06/26/05 12:37 AM
Re: Ottawa, Canada. Parliament Hill rally
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Pooh-Bah
Registered: 11/29/00
Posts: 1958
Loc: Amerika, land of the Free? Ha!...
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I think you are still suffering from some old media propaganda. GMM/MMM is very diverse. It is up to each local area to change the media. BE THE MEDIA! Quote:
To clarify, I was talking about an event that is designed to be comfortable for the mainstream to attend (families, babies, elderly), *not* a smoke-out. A "Cannabis Information Day" marketed to the general public.
*IF* there was toking at the event it would be in a designated area away from where the information area is located. Anything that would make the public uncomforatable at this type of event would be contrary to the goal of reaching the public with our message.
Any event inside would solve that problem. Just tell people it is no-smoking inside. Check out the hemp fairs and many other inside events for ideas. I recently added some more event calendars to the worldwide list here:
http://members.fortunecity.com/multi19/events.htm
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I question the value of most cannabis rallies as they currently are held. If we look at the priority goals for advancing this movement (education of the public, politicians, and the media) how effective are rallies really? A minute on the news showing some young kid toking? Does that help us or hurt us in the public eye? Can anyone point to some tangible positive outcomes?
Sometimes the first year or 2 the media focus on kids smoking if they are doing it. In following years more and more media, both mainstream and alternative begin covering it. And a more balanced view occurs. And the organizers learn how to encourage the kiddies not to smoke at the rallies.
But of course at many rallies worldwide, no one is smoking openly. And many MMM/GMM events are not stand-in-one-place rallies and a few speakers. They have many booths, info tables, floats, etc.. They march to various parks and venues. They have music both inside and out.
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Rallies DO have value. They are good for getting fellow tokers out of the closet, and they build a greater sense of community, but *how much* does that benefit us (relative to other tactics)? Where is the activist recruitment efforts to get newcomers more involved?
There are thousands of websites that have GMM/MMM info, photos, etc.. They cover all angles of cannabis and drug reform. Once people get involved with websites for their local GMM/MMM they branch out into all types of activism.
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IMO, rallies need to move away from the smoke-out oriented format. We need to design rallies around priority goals, not just default to a smoke-out and make other efforts fit with it. We need to provide an atmosphere of inclusivity rather than combativeness, and actually reach people other than the "choir".
I suggest people think of more than "rallies"
GMM/MMM, for example, has evolved into being a yearly day for ANY kind of cannabis and drug reform EVENT. For ideas check out the photo albums for various cities.
An organizer in Oslo, Norway just uploaded some more cities into the GMM/MMM 2005 photo gallery. Nagaoka, Japan. Copenhagen, Denmark. Leipzig, Germany.
http://gallery.marihemp.com/mmm2005
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#1022020 - 06/26/05 08:09 AM
Re: Ottawa, Canada. Parliament Hill rally
[Re: puff mama]
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Ganja God
Registered: 04/20/02
Posts: 5534
Loc: Retired
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okay,can anyone tell me how to make it so the picture shows on the post? And not so small ... or maybe it's just my computer ... 
I see someone addressed the TIFF issue.
To get a photo to display:
1) make a post, and upload your picture.
2) view your post and copy the URL of the attachment, then
3) edit your post, and insert that URL with the image feature.
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#1022021 - 06/26/05 09:58 AM
Re: Ottawa, Canada. Parliament Hill rally
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Vansterdame
Registered: 08/22/04
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Loc: vancouver
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