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#1390329 - 02/28/08 09:15 PM Re: "Injecting cannabis" in reefer-mad UK [Re: High on CO2]
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If she had injected cannabis THC into a cancerous tumor, it would have had much better effects.
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#1390331 - 02/28/08 09:24 PM Re: "Injecting cannabis" in reefer-mad UK [Re: JodieGR]
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THC is not water-soluble and so cannot be injected to my knowledge. Usually they use variant forms of THC for injection purposes.

This journalist Nicky Taylor has done other such stories, including one where she engaged in "binge drinking" for a month and documented the results in her declining appearance and health. Read it here: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=372102&in_page_id=1770
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#1390337 - 02/28/08 09:45 PM Re: "Injecting cannabis" in reefer-mad UK [Re: Dana Larsen]
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This journalist Nicky Taylor has done other such stories, including one where she engaged in "binge drinking" for a month and documented the results in her declining appearance and health.


Nonsense! Christopher Hitchens assures me that this is covered under the standard terms of the 'research' budget.....BUUUUUUUUUUURP!
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#1390768 - 03/01/08 08:07 PM Re: "Injecting cannabis" in reefer-mad UK [Re: Luther]
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 Originally Posted By: Luther
Injecting THC ... Wow! I wonder what that is like? Anyone with experiences to share?

I would imagine it would be similar to eating too much thc rich baked goods. That is an unpleasant experience lol.

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#1390778 - 03/01/08 09:04 PM Re: Reefer madness across the pond [Re: Andromeda]
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Reporter Smokes Marijuana to Enhance Story comments

Is Nicky Taylor's On-Air Session Bad Judgment...
The spirit of Hunter S. Thompson is still alive? (BS)

Reefer madness across the pond

The BBC is understood to be keen to show the film on the eve of a decision by Jacqui Smith, the Home Secretary, to recriminalise cannabis by upgrading it from C to B status. Her decision is expected in the spring.



Blair Plans U-Turn on Cannabis
By Sophie Goodchild and Francis Elliott
Source: Independent UK December 10, 2005

Britain to Review Marijuana's Classification
Drug War Chronicle, Issue #494, 7/20/07

Expert Advisers Threaten Revolt Against Clarke By James Randerson
Guardian Unlimited, Science January 14, 2006 United Kingdom
Members of a top drug advisory panel who wrote a secret report to the home secretary on cannabis may resign if the government reclassifies the drug to class B, the Guardian has learned. They are concerned that Charles Clarke is considering upgrading cannabis and say this would be in direct contradiction to the findings of their unpublished report. They say such a move would set a "damaging precedent", and that their report - which the Guardian has seen - explicitly rules out reclassification.

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Since Delta 9 THC is poorly soluble in water, adequate injection procedures are difficult to achieve. A variety of solvents and other agents have been employed as injection vehicles in animal experiments with varying degrees of success. Interperitoneal injections are inefficient and often cause serious complications, and intravenous administration of pure materials is difficult. Water soluble THC derivatives have recently been developed, but their similarity to natural THC has not yet been established. There have been a few reports of individuals self-injecting crude concoctions of cannabis extract intravenously. Such injections can produce serious adverse effects which may not be attributable solely to the pharmacological properties of the cannabinoids, but may occur in reaction to other insoluble foreign particles in the prepared concentrate.



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Bull Cow and Chicken shit.

Though I think that might be what started Nicky.
Keeping up with Reefer Madhatters might not be easy.
Seems they have an abundance of creepy crawlers.
Wearing crooked badges looking mean and puzzled.
Stuck on a big, cold island.

After all they chose to stay with King George. Cowards!
Same as those voting for the modern silver spoon idiots here.
This so called reporter ain't no Gonzo.
Ain't even Woodward and Burnstein.
Copping out for a two bit burglary,
while Ganja gets hidden behind Nixon's,
Bull Cow and Chicken shit scheduling.

She's ready for the Gong show.
Or America's funniest home video's.
Breaking the Guinness record for injecting Bong water.
While reciting a verse of Dr. Soose.
Anything makes the news if it doesn't make a difference.
New medical discoveries with Ganja ain't that high of a priority.
Might dip into drug store sales.

Same with Hemp food fuel and fiber.
Not aborting babies like the status quo cotton crop,
Chinese wallmart sweatshops or Iranian poly crude oil fiber.
Let alone when the oil war bombs drop on mamas
that weren't starved by Klintoon/Gore sanctions.
Though wild hemp makes up 99% of Ganja taken off the US streets.
Kids are now safe from soft strong blue jeans and EFA nutrition.
Protein, like the cows exported after mucking up our streams.
So some International cattleman ass.
can buy up more rain forest to graze on.

Only good about this moron
is she brings her kind to the surface.
Stuck in old Anslinger modes.
Not much to say about such reefer crazies,
witnessing so much violence from Ganja,
but never remembering to bring a victim.
Not even a big bloated drugczar expense account,
like our drug worriers get for this is your egg on drugs ads.
I'm glad we left. DdC

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#1390779 - 03/01/08 09:09 PM Re: "Injecting cannabis" in reefer-mad UK [Re: escapegoat]
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Just a few observations:

This approach is antithetical to the scientific method. By broadcasting it, the BBC is reverting to the Dark Ages. I don't care how bright or moronic, honest or corrupt Taylor is. Well intentioned or ill. It's all the same. She's a bit eccentric at the very least, and probably a ripe subject for a psychological profile.

The form of this exercise is geared for mass mind control. If it were several thousand people representing a wide cross-section in a double-blind experiment, I'd be interested.

What she's doing is bottom feeding.

One human's experience in only one human's experience. When we seek to convert others to it, we create a cult. When we only seek to get attention, all bets are off.

The witch hunts during the Dark Ages punished by torture and murder behavior not too different from Taylor's pot and needle experiment. It's debatable how much progress we've made.

peace and pot
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#1391082 - 03/03/08 07:00 AM Re: "Injecting cannabis" in reefer-mad UK [Re: Poter Principle]
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This approach is antithetical to the scientific method.


Huh? No, it is not.

The reason this is so sensational is exactly because it challenges the core notion that 'marijuana is safe'.

Karl Popper, a 20th century philosopher of science, suggested that in keeping with Hume's proof that the truth can not be discovered by observation suggests only a sincere attempt at falsification of a theory can be considered valid.

If you believe all swans are white, going out to look at more white swans doesn't get you anywhere. Only finding a black, green or other coloured swan will make a difference.

Seeking the falsification is science. Seeking the edge of knowledge, not holding onto the 'religion' is the way to go, IMO.

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#1392069 - 03/05/08 05:36 PM Re: "Injecting cannabis" in reefer-mad UK [Re: Luther]
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What is she injecting? Marinol? that's not the same chemical structure as THC, which has NEVER been successfully synthesized.

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#1392080 - 03/05/08 05:53 PM Re: "Injecting cannabis" in reefer-mad UK [Re: Luther]
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This approach is antithetical to the scientific method.


Huh? No, it is not.


Hmm... Since when does a single subject experiment qualify as a scientifically valid basis for any knowledge claims?

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#1392094 - 03/05/08 06:14 PM Re: "Injecting cannabis" in reefer-mad UK [Re: Poter Principle]
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 Originally Posted By: Poter Principle
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This approach is antithetical to the scientific method.


Huh? No, it is not.


Hmm... Since when does a single subject experiment qualify as a scientifically valid basis for any knowledge claims?

peace and pot


What is the purpose of a scientific study? We could quibble over whether it is to prove or disprove a theory or both. But, simply put, if the theory is itself valid, in that there are conditions that could disprove the theory, good science would explore those areas.

I hypothesize that marijuana use can not kill the user.

Tell me, Potter, how many of my test subjects will have to die before you admit one dead subject was enough to prove the hypothesis wrong?


Edited by Luther (03/05/08 06:15 PM)

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