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Hi Guys, this is my 2nd grow, although I was pretty pleased with my 1st, I still had problems with it, the main one was, the plant didn't look a healthy green, I based this from some of shadeys pics in the forum.

Anyhoo

Back to my 2nd try, it's from seed, my set-up is a work in progress. But already I am seeing ill-health.

I did let it dry out a little, but I thought it had come back, it was only one day.

Any help would be much appreciated, and it will save me pestering Shadey :)

 

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Thanx in advance

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Hi Magician. That baby does look sick. Is that compost in rock wool it is growing in?

 

The leaf tips look to be burned by too much nutrients. Seedlings do not need any nutrients for the first 2-3- weeks.

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5 hours ago, Magician said:

Any help would be much appreciated, and it will save me pestering Shadey :)

 

Hi Magician, your not pestering me lol, good to see you started another grow thread, Its better putting it here as there are more knowledgeable growers than me, that can help as well if I dont know what the problem is, its always good to get more diagnosis's. If you put up a bit of info on what set up you have, (I know but others dont) it helps speed up problem resolving for you. The pictures do give more help, I thought you had it in the DWC tank already.

 

Your new growth coming through looks OK atm though.

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2 hours ago, Ganjajuana said:

Hi Magician. That baby does look sick. Is that compost in rock wool it is growing in?

 

The leaf tips look to be burned by too much nutrients. Seedlings do not need any nutrients for the first 2-3- weeks.

 

Hi, I am using those root riot cubes, you place seed into cube, it meant to have all the nutes the young seed needs, as for the rock wool, I am growing one seed, and it sits better in the rockwool cube, I only feed RO water, I water once per day carefully,last grow, I damaged one of 2 plants, had to toss it out, this was due to drowning the poor thing.

 

Shadey it's very good to know you have my back :)

just loving this stuff.........

 

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1 hour ago, Magician said:

I only feed RO water, I water once per day carefully,

 

I think you are over watering again Magician, probably difficult to tell with it in the middle of the  Rockwell cube. Its not gong to be drinking much at this stage, you could let them go 2-3 days without a water, depending on room temps and RH, forces them to push roots down when they dont get much, I would wait up to 24 hours after the top 3/4 inch has dried out, which is a half of the way down the riot cube before watering again. Now I see that its growing in Rockwell which looks wet almost out to the edges of the cube you could probably wait a week before it would need another.

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What is the ph of the RO water? Also did you soak the starter cubes in oh balanced water beforehand? Those cubes retain a lot of water so once a day is too much IMO. I gave my girls 300 ppm after they were a week old and some said that was even too long to wait

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15 hours ago, Ganjajuana said:

Hi Magician. That baby does look sick. Is that compost in rock wool it is growing in?

 

The leaf tips look to be burned by too much nutrients. Seedlings do not need any nutrients for the first 2-3- weeks.

 

Yes they do.  Rockwool has zero nutes so need some as soon as they come up.

 

Seedlings in soil can go 2 or 3 weeks without adding any nutes.

 

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5 hours ago, LabRat said:

 

Yes they do.  Rockwool has zero nutes so need some as soon as they come up.

 

Seedlings in soil can go 2 or 3 weeks without adding any nutes.

 

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Hi L/R, long time .... I am using Root Riot Cubes, "txt clip from there page" 

Made from composted organic materials, these new cubes have a great spongy texture which retains the perfect air/water ratio for healthy, rapid root growth.

Suitable for both cuttings and seeds, Root Riot consistently outperforms alternative media. The cubes are specially inoculated with micro nutrients to nourish the young plants, and also beneficial rooting fungi to aid root development.

I place this little sqr cube into a rockwool cube because it sits better, doesn't fall over, and feed once a day with RO water. thats all I do :(

I have also noticed it's not growing upwards very fast, I am using 2 cool white tubes set up, pretty close to the plant.

That said unsure if they grow upwards fast at this stage :blush:

Good to see you back L/R

many thanx

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Looks hungry to me, too.

I just turn the rooters flat side down, bore a hole in the rounded end, and plant.

Don't measure the pH of plain RO water, it'll shorten the life span of your pH meter; only pH after adding all the goodies.

 

Just an observation...the pH of the organic rooter is probably in the 6.5 range while the pH of RW strongly trends toward 7.  I don't know for sure,  but I think nutrient uptake might be difficult in this situation (at least at the beginning) because weed likes a pH in the 6.2 - 6.8 range in soil(less) media, but 5.5 - 5.8 in RW.  What's the end game: hydro or not hydro?

 

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I still had problems with it, the main one was, the plant didn't look a healthy green, I based this from some of shadeys pics in the forum.

Is the same strain that Shadey is/was growing?

 

Good luck!

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9 hours ago, Lovevrythingreen said:

What is the ph of the RO water? Also did you soak the starter cubes in oh balanced water beforehand? Those cubes retain a lot of water so once a day is too much IMO. I gave my girls 300 ppm after they were a week old and some said that was even too long to wait

Unsure the PH of my RO water :crazy: I did soak the cube in RO water, then with some gentle pressure squeezed out allot of the water, placed the seed into the cubes and roughly 3 days the wee thing was showing.

Thank for your interest...

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I see your problem.

 

The cubes had enough nutes to get your sprouts off to a good start but after you put them in rockwool the feeder roots growing into it aren't finding anything to feed on.

 

Give them some 1/4 strength nutes and watch them go!

 

:peace:

 

PS:  Should be home from 5 days in the hospital tomorrow.  Sux doing this on my phone. :)

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On 12/1/2017 at 9:29 PM, LabRat said:

I see your problem.

 

The cubes had enough nutes to get your sprouts off to a good start but after you put them in rockwool the feeder roots growing into it aren't finding anything to feed on.

 

Give them some 1/4 strength nutes and watch them go!

 

:peace:

 

PS:  Should be home from 5 days in the hospital tomorrow.  Sux doing this on my phone. :)

 

 

 

Hi L/R, I hope your feeling better, your back in your home and settled.

Re: seed problem, I have know idea what 1/4 strength is, :crazy:

I use advance nutes ph perfect, I added equal parts of grow and micro, added some RO water, till EC  reading was 250pp, and began to feed the rockwool cube,

and I think there is an improvement already, will wait a couple of days and take pic.

L/R knowing I am using the DWC system, what is the best way to do 1 seed,

many thanx, and get well soon.

regards

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On 11/30/2017 at 7:41 PM, Shadey said:

 

I think you are over watering again Magician, probably difficult to tell with it in the middle of the  Rockwell cube. Its not gong to be drinking much at this stage, you could let them go 2-3 days without a water, depending on room temps and RH, forces them to push roots down when they dont get much, I would wait up to 24 hours after the top 3/4 inch has dried out, which is a half of the way down the riot cube before watering again. Now I see that its growing in Rockwell which looks wet almost out to the edges of the cube you could probably wait a week before it would need another.

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Hi Shadey, at the mo I have my head straight, how goes your canaba plants, (think that's what there called) there close to harvest, I am very plz you have your license, it's what you have wanted for awhile, it reads like you can only grow a certain amount, is this correct, and if you have a large place to grow, wouldn't this be a good earner for you when you get the other license, over here it's a complete ban on the plant, we are told if we use this our soles are lost, and we will all land in hell, but before that happens we go crazy, drug induced maniacs.

So hats of to your country for being so open to the health of there people..

Re: the wee seedling, it looks like I am again at fault, the rockwool cube I use for stability of the seed cube, is allowing the roots to wander into the wool, but there isn't any nutes there.   ( I hope)

Regards

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53 minutes ago, Magician said:

how goes your canaba plants, (think that's what there called) there close to harvest, I am very plz you have your license, it's what you have wanted for awhile, it reads like you can only grow a certain amount, is this correct, and if you have a large place to grow, wouldn't this be a good earner for you when you get the other license

Hi Magician, My plants make and model is Candida CD1  you should check them out they are from a UK seed bank called Seedsman, high CBD very low THC they have a great lemony smell and taste. I accidentally broke off a stem with 3 small buds on it 2 weeks ago and tried it Thursday, Friday and last night I used it up. Great for pain and sleep, although its a relatively low yield plant, there info says 400grms a sq meter, but these seed companies always advertise higher yields than what the average mortal can acquire, I will be happy with 200-300 grms as its much stronger than what I am getting from my LP. 2 more weeks I recon for the indica to finish then another 2-3 for the sativa version.

 

53 minutes ago, Magician said:

So hats of to your country for being so open to the health of there people..

The health side of it is not bad, just takes a long time to get the license, for me anyway. I cant legally make any money from it unless I get a micro grow license when/if they legalize it in July and judging by the time it took to get my medical license that could take several years.

 

53 minutes ago, Magician said:

Re: the wee seedling, it looks like I am again at fault, the rockwool cube I use for stability of the seed cube, is allowing the roots to wander into the wool, but there isn't any nutes there.   ( I hope)

Yes I saw Labs diagnosis, sounds right, thats why its good to post problems here, so the more experienced can way in on it, hopefully she will start firing on all cylinders quickly, and you can get it in the DWC tank.

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Magicians post moved from my PM.

 

Hi Guys, last day of the year, and I thought I would update you,

1st after growing and harvesting, I bought a vaporiser, I don't smoke, would like to convert the bud to oil but one step at a time, anyways, I suffer from insomnia, 4 hrs broken sleep was a good night, but now I have a cuppa and a smoke (vaporiser) just before bed, and 8hrs solid sleep is the norm, sometime 10 hrs sleep, I cant believe this.

No more feeling constantly exhausted, which helps greatly the depression and anxiety, just getting a good sleep, however add the reduction in pain levels, to a point where I only take painkillers to stem of the withdrawal symptoms.

My whole self has improved, I think using the medicine could cause me to withdraw even more, but at the moment that isn't how it's working.

Anyone reading this and thinking about using Cannabis as a medicine, don't hesitate just get on with it, I got allot of help from this forum, without this help I would have failed, and I cant thank them enough.

Seedling 1st show was 20th Nov 17, I messed it up a little but survived, thanx to LabRat, the roots were in deed in the rock-wool with nothing to eat, corrected this, and now it's installed into DWC with T5 lighting system (4 tubes) roughly 6weeks into grow, I think all is looking ok, perhaps not as healthy as Shadey's, but it's ok, when it gets a bit bigger will change light to Dimlux Lighting 315w.

I have attached some pics, do they look ok ?

I would like to top it, but unsure when it's best to do so, any help would be appreciated.

 

I hope everyone had a good Christmas and may I wish everyone a very good new year.

A huge handshake to Shadey and Labrat for all there help.

 

Pic... Growroom temp 71f, Nute Temp 68f nute strength 422ppm, age roughly 6 weeks from seed

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