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Been a while but things are still going on.

 

Got 5 Critical Mass cuttings from my buddy in the city and a 25 pack of neoprene inserts and built a DWC style cloner to root them in.  Laid out all the inserts on the lid and used a 4" nail to poke down the centers to mark the spots to drill holes with a 5/8" wood drill.  Then I used my alcohol lamp to slightly melt the edges of the holes so roots won't snag when pulling the clones out.  Day 3 now and no roots yet but the cuttings still look fine.  Temps got low because I forgot to close the window in the bedroom at light's out but I've rooted fine at 65F and it just takes longer.  Water temp is 71F right now with the RH around 55.

 

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Only 5 cuts in there so I may have gone overboard with the 21 holes I put in the lid. :)

 

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Have a nice cover off a cake from the store that fits loosely on the little tub and makes a decent humidity dome.  A thermometer down the center into the water lets me know it's temp.  Got rid of the 30Something girl.  Frigging mite magnet and just not worth the effort IMO.  Being as how it's genetics are totally unknown I don't want to wast time or space with it.  Now just have the OG#18 as a bigger plant and will take cuttings off it for DWC.  The Blueberries are the fastest and strongest with both the AK and Original Skunk being slow.

 

Most of my cuttings from the CBD girls are well rooted and waiting for a DWC tub.  They're on the right and being fed lightly to keep them healthy until they get new homes.  None of the OG or sativa cuts rooted.  Still got some mites floating around so as soon as I can get some more bug spray I'll go hard on getting rid of them.  No sign of thrips.

 

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The CBD GoldFish are looking almost done but the OttO#1 is still putting out lots of white hairs but very tiny buds compared to the GF.  40 days since the flip on DEC. 12.  Just want them out of there so I can pup to 6 DWC tubs in there while I build the new room.  Got rooted clones so can just do whatever I want once they're gone.  Couple more weeks I guess.

 

These are the Otto#1 budz.  Just pathetic lol but didn't expect much in the way of yield.  Good breeding stock to make my crosses with tho.

 

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Some of the GoldFish budz.  Bigger but will be lucky to get an oz off each plant I figure.  Rough ride for all of them and hope to get better results in DWC.

 

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We shall see.

 

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I like that cloner! I made most of mine with 1.5" holes. I did make one with 7/8" holes because I couldn't find my bigger drill bit. I had troubles with that one when I let roots get too big. I'm getting ready to build some smaller cloners. I'm going to try a 1.25" drill bit this time and make 1.5" covers/plugs to hold the cuts. 

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This is the old lid I made a dozen years ago but the cuts just fell over and barely 50% rooted so I've always done my cuts in finely screened promix in those 9-hole seed starter pots and get almost 100% rooted.  I've also used tiny cuttings but once they root they grow just as well as larger ones.  It's the genetics that count.

 

I sliced slots between groups of holes so I can get the rooted cuts out without ripping off the roots.  Hoping the new top will work a lot better but as it's the first try who knows. :)

 

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My buddy uses the same system with just tap water to supply clones to commercial growers.  Keeps a few big mothers in an 8x4 grow tent and has two tubs for rooting the cuts.  Gets $15 each for the clones but has a bug problem going on.  House is full of all sorts of plants and he's working hard on cleaning up his act.  The 5 ones I just got seem to be clean but I still have some mites in the older plants so could get infected yet.

 

Gotta get myself bug free ASAP.  I just won't spray anything on flowering plants so got to clean up the vegging ones now.

 

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I was gonna ask in shout but figured if I asked here others will also benefit from our conversation. I'm curious to know if you're pH'ing your cloner. I'm also curious to know if you used any cloning gel or root hormone at all. I really like the idea of having a thermometer in the water. I think I want to buy a little aquarium thermometer or even those strips that you put on the outside of a fish tank would give a person a better idea of what's going on in there.

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Plants look way better than before. looking at the current setup, I guess you will yield better output. Good luck mate.
 

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On 1/25/2018 at 3:34 AM, GBuds said:

I was gonna ask in shout but figured if I asked here others will also benefit from our conversation. I'm curious to know if you're pH'ing your cloner. I'm also curious to know if you used any cloning gel or root hormone at all. I really like the idea of having a thermometer in the water. I think I want to buy a little aquarium thermometer or even those strips that you put on the outside of a fish tank would give a person a better idea of what's going on in there.

 

Sorry I missed that but haven't updated for a while.

 

No gels or root hormones.  How do you make a whore moan.  Don't pay her. ;)

 

I just used RO water with a shot of peroxide and 2mls each of my 3-part.  About 7L in there.   I scraped the last inch of the stem but they just went black and the roots emerged from the untouched part of the stem above that.  4 out of the 5 rooted and I just put 3 of them in a DWC tonight.  Pics coming next.  Going to be loading it up with cuttings from my other plants in the next day or so.  Just going to cut them off the plant and stick them in after cleaning it and reloading.  I put one of those clones in a pot of promix almost 2 weeks ago and it's growing good.

 

They have those stick on thermometers they use for beer and wine making which are probably the same thing you mentioned.  I got one in my desk drawer somewhere so should stick it on and see how it reads compared to that lab thermometer which my wife has commandeered for her incubator.  She's got 99 eggs in the damn thing right now.  Getting a bit of a market for chicks and sure pays better than just selling eggs.

 

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Set up the bare frame from the 8x4 tent to give me more space in the bedroom and lots of places to hang stuff without damaging the ceiling with hooks etc.

 

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One of the Critical Mass clones was potted and is doing well with the other four still in the cloner and a couple of them starting to root.  4 eventually did but the the fifth looks like it won't make it.  All of the stems went black where I had scraped them and the roots emerged above the scraped portions so won't be scraping them any more.

 

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I'll be cleaning out the cloner and loading it up with cuttings from some of the other plants.  I got rid of the Original Skunk as they were spindly and weak as hell.  The 3 Blueberries aren't impressing me much either.  Even after topping they don't grow out side branches worth a crap and are tall and stretchy not bushy like BB should be unless I got that wrong.  First time growing a pure BB.  The AK47 aren't impressing me either as they seem pretty lank and lean instead of bushy and strong.

 

I put a garbage bag over the 30Something sativa girl about 3 weeks ago and stuck it in the basement.  Talk about a mite magnet!  Sprayed the crap out of her and just couldn't get rid of those bugs so decided to toss her out.  Unknown genetics so didn't want to waste any more time on her.  When I took the bag off after 3 weeks in the dark, cold basement the tops looked great and I now wish I'd taken a few cuttings just in case she turned out to be the bomb but she's gone now.  Got out the big Fiskars and lopped her off.

 

One of the Original Skunk on the right and a couple of older plants from my last harvest went too.

 

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I bet you are wishing you didnt take them off your buddys hands now. They seemed to be more trouble than they were worth. The critical mass is a nice stocky looking clone though.

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I'm not a happy camper.  Been a few days and not seeing much root development yet.

 

Heavy doses of peroxide seems to be keeping them nice and white but they're not sprouting out like they should like past ones have.

 

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The greener ones at the top are the Goldfish 'B'.  Smoking some or both now and the 'B' seems to 'B' the best so far.

 

6 dead holes filled with balls to to block light.  I put the pots in baggies and fill them with balls.

 

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1 hour ago, LabRat said:

Been a few days and not seeing much root development yet.

Might not be good for DWC but I would be happy with that for soil in this short time. Looks like its putting all its energy into making leaves.

 

Is that a thermometer for testing how well meat is cooked in the middle pic?

 

 

 

 

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19 hours ago, Shadey said:

Is that a thermometer for testing how well meat is cooked in the middle pic?

 

It's actually a pipeline thermometer I scooped out of an abandoned well site way up north when I was working up there.  It's 9C lower than actual temp but as long as I know that it's OK to keep an eye on the nute temps with. 

 

I'm keeping the room temp at 70F so the nute temp stays lower but planning to move the tubs upstairs and using the chiller to keep temps down so I can put my larger plants down there and get them flowering under the 1000w Hortilux.  Then I can let the temps run up closer to 90 and run the CO2 burner.

 

I'll take a bunch of cuttings off those first.  Some haven't even showed sex yet.

 

Two unsexed Blueberry on the far left and the other one right front in the larger pot as it's shown to be a girl.  One of the two AK47 front and center with the other behind it and the 3 Otto clones on a couple of inverted plant pots way at the back.  May need one to go into the tub downstairs as it looks like I broke one.  The OG #18 is the biggest one in the back on the right side.

 

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Watch Kitty guarding the door. :)

 

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Man oh man talk about getting behind.

 

The DWC failed badly.  After a month there was still no root growth in either tub and a couple of the little ones died so I rescued the survivors and they are vegging fine in pots of Promix upstairs.

 

All plants in the flowering room got flipped on 4/20 so the following pics were taken at the end of day 21. I used one of my new Light EnerG 1000W Super HPS that are fairly high in blue light as well as red so seemed to help limit the stretch as none stretched more than 4" or so. Multiple tops helps with that too. Thursday I switched it out for my old, thought it was dead after 1-1/2 grows 15 years ago, SunMaster Warm Deluxe conversion bulb. Tempted to use the Hortilux 940w one as it's way more intense but it's a lot hotter too and today it was summer temps but the basement is still cool.

Stopped using the CO2 now that stretch is done and keeping the temps down to 75 max dropping to 65 at night. The 85F temp and 65% RH was good but also making conditions perfect for the damn borg. Now that buds are packing on some weight it's time to get the RH down to 40 or so. At the lower temp setting the exhaust fan is kicking on often so they get lots of fresh air.

First off the AK47 fems from seed. The smaller one, 'B' seems to be making buds faster and bigger. Both raised the same so got some different genotypes here.

Smaller one got mites from Patient Zero bad and she's been lollipopped and fairly harshly defoliated to make it easier to hunt them down and squish their sorry asses! Schwazzing or something it's called and not my usual MO. 44 and 37" tall from dirt to top.

 

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After dark with the flash the smaller AK.
 

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Next up are the Critical Mass. 29 and 26" Near identical clones from the same mother. Smaller one was put into the grow room about 2 weeks later than the larger one so got less veg time in the 4gal pot. Again the smaller one seems to be budding up better. Go figure eh.
 

She had mites pretty bad too so got a crew cut as well.  Spent an hour hunting bugs yesterday and didn't find many so I seem to have them under control but will be killing as many as I can find and I'll be looking often.  The other plants seem clean but will be getting regular inspections.

 

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Little one in the flash.
 

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Bigger one. She got a touch of burn a while back and was closer to the light so has some permanently turned up leaf edges but is doing fine now.

 

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Those four are the stars of the show as far as bud formation and way ahead of the two Blueberry and OG#18. The BB are from Crop King and I'm not impressed so far. Maybe they are late bloomers and will pull ahead in the final stretch but I don't think so. The male BB has re-vegged and I have the pollen collected and ready to dust a few buds on each of the girls. Hopefully he has the best genes of the three . . . but I don't think so. :D

 

Promised the wife I'd help outside for a bit today so will get some more pics up later if I can but don't hold your breath. :D

 

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They are looking good Lab, the buds are starting to stack up nicely.

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yes they are looking great . i have grown blueberry for a long time starting with seeds from dj short a long time ago.the plants were  medium sized and were late for outdoor ,probably about 2 wks later than everything else but if you could get it to finish the taste was really nice.ive had seeds from vsc and dutch passion and some phenos finished much  quicker and the plants outdoor could easily get to 250g.the big thing is they always seem to come on really fast in the finish, so hopefully yours will come around as well.

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I sure made a rookie mistake when I did my pollinating.  Rather than take each plant out of the grow room and putting a garbage bag over it and pulling out a branch to dust I turned off the fans and dusted in the room with no bags.  Let them sit overnight and sprayed water around to deactivate any loose pollen then fired up the fans and light.

 

Now I got seeds in almost every bud and the plants are concentrating on seed production.  The BB and OG being taller don't seem so badly hit but the Critical Mass and AK have hardly any white hairs any more at day 35 so the yields are going to be greatly reduced.  Just a seed or three in each bud but I guess it's enough to screw things up pretty good.  For now on I'll be rooting clones and doing any pollinating on them rather than the large plants.

 

Still killing mites every day but just a dozen or so so keeping the numbers down until harvest.  Flat out refuse to spray anything on the plants in flower to get rid of them but hosing down the veg plants to make sure they are clean before flowering this time.

 

Take heed! :)

 

These pics are from 3 days ago on the 35th day of 12/12.  They've all had a lot of neglect and some nute burn so certainly aren't my best work.  Depression has been bad all winter and it's hard to do what needs doing a lot of the time.  My really low RH makes it so easy to fry the girls too.

 

The BB girls.  Very similar in growth and structure.  The smaller one was started about 9 days later than the larger one when one seed didn't sprout.

 

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The AK47.  Two very different phenos with these seed grown girls.  Obviously not a very stable strain from CanukSeeds and for $20/seed I would expect more uniformity.

 

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The Critical Mass from cuttings so I expect them to be the same in taste and buzz tho they are different heights because they got put into flowering at different times.  One spent almost a month in DWC but never rooted so was a lot smaller when it went into flower.  Have the other two in veg upstairs.  They look like they would have grown massive colas if they hadn't got all seeded up so looking forward to the next batch of them done right.  From the sample buds I took at 3 weeks it's killer smoke.

 

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The always fussy to grow OG#18 that got burned bad and now seems to be starving or something tho it's getting fed well.  Almost took a pass on it but took two cuttings for the heck of it.  Really nice buzz tho nothing spectacular.  Pleasant and relaxing.  Smallish round buds that don't form colas so the yields are small but worth having in my inventory for it's difference.

 

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I took 2 cuttings each off the AK, BB and OG#18 on the 19th on the 29th day of 12/12 and yesterday there were tiny roots on 4 of the 10.  Still have to wait for them to re-veg but pretty sure they will.  Don't want to lose the AK and BB in case they turn out really good once harvested and cured.  Still have the two Cr. Mass in veg so can get cuttings any time off them.  Got the male BB revegging and took three cuttings off it yesterday so I can toss the plant.  4ft tall and hard to fit in with the smaller plants in veg.  Also still popping some balls and dropping pollen so want to get rid of it.

 

I just ordered a USB scope that should be here by Friday so will be getting some nice closeup pics of the trichomes.  40-1000X and can plug into my phone then I can can transfer the pics to this PC for cropping and resizing.  A new toy! :)

 

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On 5/14/2018 at 8:21 PM, patchgrower said:

yes they are looking great . i have grown blueberry for a long time starting with seeds from dj short a long time ago.the plants were  medium sized and were late for outdoor ,probably about 2 wks later than everything else but if you could get it to finish the taste was really nice.ive had seeds from vsc and dutch passion and some phenos finished much  quicker and the plants outdoor could easily get to 250g.the big thing is they always seem to come on really fast in the finish, so hopefully yours will come around as well.

 

That's good to hear as they seem really slow to get the buds going.  Did you ever notice the hairs were thicker and seem to be blunt on the ends rather than wispy like most plants?  Seem to work as I have seeds forming on the buds I dusted and random ones all over from my screw up pollinating.  They have lots of hairs all the time so the buds are still pushing out new flowers which is a good sign.  Was wondering.  These are from Crop King and I don't know where they stole the genetics from. :)

 

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that's a good question. there are so many different "blueberry" plants out there now. i wonder if dj shorts new version is as tasty as the original? i think every  seed vendor has a different version. i bought some northern lights autos from crop king and 1 was 2.5 ft tall and got 90g. the other was 12'' tall and i got 10 g and completely different weed.so i kind of gave up on autos after that.plants are looking good though, and even if you get seeds well ,it'll still be good smoke.do you do an outdoor run or strictly inside.i haven't tried indoor in summer so i think i'll stick to outdoor for the summer and then back inside come fall.

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We're so far north that plants just start flowering around the middle of August and we often have frost by the end of Aug.  Even as early as mid-Aug a couple times.  Been getting longer warm falls the last few years so may be worth trying outside but I've been all indoors for over a decade.  I have some auto seeds I still might put out in pots yet this year.  See if they can finish in time and plan for lots more next year if it works out.

 

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Alternative smoking material.

 

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