Jump to content
Unregistered

Crowded and too tall

Recommended Posts

17 hours ago, Unregistered said:

..so much of the common-wisdom on the 'net ends up boiling down to that sort of thing. We are all really just guessing.

That's very true.

Most strains today developed for indoor growing are very hybridized and acclimatized to accepted standards for indoor production which includes a 12/12 photoperiod for the bud cycle (I doubt many of the large scale growers and breeders are playing around with light cycles).  I think attempting to match the environment the parents were grown and bred in would help me max potential better than trying to match the environment to their genetic lineage.  But that's just me.

  • Upvote 1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
On 2017-07-15 at 8:38 AM, frmrgrl said:

That's very true.

Most strains today developed for indoor growing are very hybridized and acclimatized to accepted standards for indoor production which includes a 12/12 photoperiod for the bud cycle (I doubt many of the large scale growers and breeders are playing around with light cycles).  I think attempting to match the environment the parents were grown and bred in would help me max potential better than trying to match the environment to their genetic lineage.  But that's just me.

Ya. I'm still considering that a strong argument for 12/12, and the best option if there are no other considerations (at least until I do a few side-by-sides ;) ).

 

I am a bit skeptical (maybe even hostile) about taking leads from the "large scale" crowd - they are Agribusiness. Profit is just too powerful a motivator to trust that they are working towards the same goals as I; and even if profit isn't #1, just having staff relying on the crop changes the equation to favour quantity over quality. I also would not expect them to give away any trade secret-like discoveries if they did find that tweaking things like photoperiod had real effects, or have any motivation to dissuade others from venturing down dead ends.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
19 hours ago, Unregistered said:

at least until I do a few side-by-sides ;)

That's what makes growing weed fun :leaf:.  

I personally think, given the decades that Cannabis has been grown indoors (and at least casually studied), if there were any magic hidden in photoperiod manipulation, we'd already know about it.

 

I can understand your stance on big agribusiness; just keep an open mind, you might find some good practices that can be adapted to your situation.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Took down the taller Thai Lights...

DSC_3309-2000.jpg

...4 bundles of 5 or 6 branches + the top, very leafy, but there are fairly dense and resinous buds buried under all the foliage...

DSC_3310-crop.jpg

...2.2g of bud from the tip of a thin branch, the tops and larger branches are looking a bit better (another day or two until they dry).

 

The amount out not-quite-fan-nor-sugar leaf kinda sucks, the smoke itself is pretty good though and may have even upped the bar for the LP a bit. This was the first pick when I went looking for seed for the pot I was smoking 30 yrs ago and I'm a bit surprised at how close it is to the memory: a bit more earthy and a little less spicy, with a touch of citrus, but the same basic taste; texture is about right (small leaves and bracts feel thicker, meatier than is typical); and there is a familiar yellow-gold color already showing through the green.

  • Upvote 1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Great thread!  My only comment would be to tear down that foil and paint the walls a flat white - much more efficient use of every photon and you will avoid possible hot spots.  

 

Nice pics :)

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Looks great, that should keep you going for a while.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
On 8/23/2017 at 12:49 PM, Doobie Brother said:

Great thread!  My only comment would be to tear down that foil and paint the walls a flat white - much more efficient use of every photon and you will avoid possible hot spots.  

 

Nice pics :)

Thanks, not foil though - textured mylar, part of the tent.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

[where was I before I was distracted by summer, then sucked into watching The Trump Show (may be the best Reality TV series ever)... harvesting the larger Thai Lights because it was mostly ready and really getting fried by the lights.]

 

Not long after that last post I noticed some mould in a bud of the smaller Thai Lights, so I removed it and look off the top of the plant. When the next rainy period came along both of the huge buds on the large African Buzz (the two that had their tips in shadow in later pics) developed mould. In total I lost the five largest buds on the two plants to mould growing along the stem - all of them were so thick and dense that you couldn't see the stem without bending the bud, and a couple couldn't be flexed far enough to see the stem without breaking. I had airflow cranked up to the point where I could keep the night time RH at ambient, but with ambient RH >50%...

 

An active dehumidifier would help, but I'm thinking that the real problem is a lack of air flow through the cola - maybe removing every second budlet/branch in a potentially thick cola is the way to go.

 

On 8/23/2017 at 4:24 PM, Shadey said:

Looks great, that should keep you going for a while.

Ya, it turn out quite well. The Thai Lights pic-ed above (slim green buds) got me 176g, the shorter one (fat buds c/w purple leaves) came in at 203g, and they have raised the potency bar wrt the LP stuff I've tried more than a little! The smaller, immature, buds on either plant are as good to a bit better than the best from the LP; the mature flowers blow it away. I'm using 1/3 to 1/2 less to get the same effect, at about 1/20th the cost per gram. The phenotype with the slim buds is a bit more potent than the one with fatter buds.

 

The large African Buzz did not turn out very well - lots of small leaves with a very low density of glandular trichomes mixed in among the flowers. A typical dose of either of the Thai Lights is about 1/4 to 1/3 of a regular joint, this African Buzz plant requires 1/2 a fat joint for the same effect. I didn't bother to weigh it out; Ziploc freezer bagged until I get around to doing a solvent extraction on it.

 

The smaller African Buzz is also kinda crappy in the same way, but it's resin content is very high (crumbled bone dry bud moves like brown sugar) so taking tweezers to the buds to pull out the shitty leaves gets me some decent smoke. I'll probably end up dry sifting most of it.

 

I have about 6G of pics to go through, including: mould, fried buds (18" is as close as I want to get to these CMH lamps in the future!), and maybe a few nice buds.


 

 

 

  • Upvote 1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!

Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.

Sign In Now

×