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How to: Finding a compassionate doctor in B.C.


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#1 Extinct

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Posted 24 March 2010 - 07:39 PM

I have been astonished at how arrogant some doctors can be about even mentioning the words medical marijuana. My family doctor turned me down because he told me medical marijuana is only for severe pain and did not want to get into it because of how the laws are.

So I come to you fine people to ask if there is anyone that knows of somewhere in Vancouver or Abbotsford that I could find a doctor with his head on straight that would be willing to prescribe Medical Marijuana for depression and anxiety.

I have been on prescribed pharmaceuticals from my family doctor for about 10 months and am not satisfied with the result and do not wish to put anymore money into the pockets of big pharmaceutical company's.

Any help would be appreciated.

Thanks Extinct.

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#2 W/O Reason

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Posted 26 March 2010 - 09:11 AM

Well, I'm sure you don't want to hear this, but the best option for you would be to go back to your doctor, and continue the conversation.

What I continually see is:

1) Patient brings up the topic of Cannabis.
2) Doctors eyes bulge, and snaps back "No! I don't want to even talk about it."
3) Patient never brings it up again.

A large majority of the doctors out there know absolutely nothing about Cannabis or the government's MMAR program, and they want it to stay that way.

If they scare the patient into not talking about it, they don't have to deal with it. Period. The thing that blows me away... is so many patients DO just drop it.

Educate your doctor. Inform him of the fact that it is a simple matter of signing a form, so you can participate in a government program.

It is a simple matter: They are simply confirming that you are who you say you are, you have the affliction you say you do, and you are now registering with the government the fact that you are medicating with Cannabis for the afore mentioned affliction. Period. He is not writing you a prescription and he doesn't even need to approve of your Cannabis use.

My family doctor turned me down because he told me medical marijuana is only for severe pain and did not want to get into it because of how the laws are.


See what I mean? He got both those points wrong. The MMAR program is for anyone using Cannabis for their medicine, and "because of how the laws are", if he simply signed the forms it would be LEGAL FOR YOU TO CONSUME YOUR MEDICINE!

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Posted 26 March 2010 - 11:13 AM

I think I may just visit him one more time about the subject, but this time I will not bring the paperwork. I will talk to him person to person and see what he thinks. I do live in a very biblhumping city though so I think the answer will still be no.

Thanks for the encouragement though.

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Posted 26 March 2010 - 11:35 PM

Well if it helps any, I know of several MMAR holders in Abbotsford.... We're everywhere!

Good luck with your talk. Speak honestly with him, and you may be surprised at the outcome.

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Posted 28 March 2010 - 01:10 PM

Im in a similar situation been back twice now with no luck is there no channels through which to get the info of one doc whos open minded?

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Posted 29 March 2010 - 07:16 PM

My wife was referred to a pain specialist in vernon for her arthritic pain.I attended the meeting and was shocked when he suddenly asked if she would consider trying medical cannabis.I asked him if he would sign the forms and he said he would.So he wrote it all in her medical files.The next week we went to the walk in clinic where she regularily attends.We asked the doctor to sign the forms to health canada.He agreed because he had noticed the pain specialist mentioned it.It was that easy.Cost 50 bux for him to fill out the Health Canada forms.You could try Dr Duncan At the Vernon Jubilee Hospital.It may be worth the drive.

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Posted 30 March 2010 - 06:23 PM

See now thats what Im talkn about,this gentleman is divulging pertinent information to help other qualified persons to get there exemption.
Kudos friend,now if more people did that,people could find local hook ups and go through the process of signing there stuff.
I believe theres strength in numbers,and an alliance of card-carrying members is stronger than just a select few.
As soon as I get my stuff signed & get the process underway,Ill be more than happy to help others,rather than just tell em to "EDUCATE UR DOCTOR?" when its obvious,to people like me,that even when people really try there hardest,some(most) doctors just dont want to sign.
Thanks again Salamander.

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Posted 30 March 2010 - 07:37 PM

Fuck yeah

I dont think a pain specialist will work for depression though

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Posted 30 March 2010 - 08:20 PM

Walk into your doctors office and tell him straight up.Look I have some depression problems and I Do Not want opiates or other addicting drugs.You want to try organic natural healing and it is your right.It might just work.
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Posted 30 March 2010 - 11:27 PM

Most doctors are biased to the pharmaceutical companies and put their own interest ahead of their patients.

I think my family doctor is one of them.

I do hope however some brave soul steps up to help out the rest of us who are not so fortunate in finding a compassionate Doctor.

I am not trying to get anyone in trouble I would just like reassurance that my marijuana is not being laced or improperly grown.

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Posted 30 March 2010 - 11:28 PM

Most doctors are biased to the pharmaceutical companies and put their own interest ahead of their patients.

I think my family doctor is one of these.

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Posted 31 March 2010 - 02:21 PM

Wish me luck ive got an appointment later today, hopefully Ill find someone whos at least reasonable enough to simply confirm the diagnosis. I've got the reduced liability forms from health canada and everything else required plus if it doesn't work FUUUUUCK them I can just go down the street from the clinic and get damn near the exact same quality allbeit with less choices to choose from

Also, is this it once I get the confirmation and fill out the membership application? Im thinking health canada also has to approve but Im trying not to think too far ahead

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Posted 31 March 2010 - 04:25 PM

offer him 500.00 to sign than 250.00 at renenewal time, drs need to make them bmw payments.

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Posted 31 March 2010 - 06:47 PM

Hallelujah she wouldnt approve the use of cannabis BUT would be willing to confirm the diagnosis which is ALL thats required!!!

I just have to complete a depression and anxiety inventory fax the results she'll sign the form fax it to the dispensary I fax the membership application and thats it....right???

Is there anything else after that? Im thinking there is cause I know health canada has to decide how much you can buy per day.

Im soooo FUCKING excited I feel like grabbing people on the street and screaming at them about it (its not wrong to excited about medication is it?)

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Posted 31 March 2010 - 10:23 PM

Hallelujah she wouldnt approve the use of cannabis BUT would be willing to confirm the diagnosis which is ALL thats required!!!

I just have to complete a depression and anxiety inventory fax the results she'll sign the form fax it to the dispensary I fax the membership application and thats it....right???

Is there anything else after that? Im thinking there is cause I know health canada has to decide how much you can buy per day.

Im soooo FUCKING excited I feel like grabbing people on the street and screaming at them about it (its not wrong to excited about medication is it?)

Peace and Pot,

TokinJ


Hello TokinJ,

Correct me if I am wrong but it sounds like you have an application package for The Dispensary that your Doctor will fill out and fax to them, completing your membership requirements for The Dispensary, not for Health Canada.

That is awesome that the Doctor has confirmed your diagnosis and you are now be able to shop for your medicine from the menu. It will still be illegal medicine, but you will have an extensive selection and knowledgeable help in choosing the right strain for your needs.

If you want your cannabis medicine to be legal then you will need the Doctor to sign Health Canada's Form B1 or B2. That form has the place for the proposed daily amount.

Health Canada does not decide how much you can buy per day from anyone. Health Canada issues your permit based on the daily amount proposed on the B form.

In most cases the patient tells the Doctor how many grams per day they are using and that is the number used on the form.

You, the card holder, are responsible for keeping yourself within the limits set out by the program. If you have more than your possession limit or plant numbers, and get caught, then you are right back in the middle of the black market all over again.

Please let The Dispensary help you get the signature on your HC forms and they will celebrate with you!

Another thing, Health Canada MUST issue your permit if you have submitted complete application forms. They can only accept completed forms or reject incomplete forms.

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Posted 01 April 2010 - 04:09 PM

Are you signing the forms from health canadas website?
I know the forms my wife filled in from health canada required the doctors diagnosis and his signature.Your doctor must also sign the back of one of the passport photos you submit with your forms.
She filled out
Form A
Form B1
Form C
Form E1

Here is the link to the forms from health canada

http://www.hc-sc.gc....r/index-eng.php

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#17 TokinJ420

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Posted 01 April 2010 - 06:10 PM

Lots of help!

So the dispensary has a process AND health canada has a process ... I've got a question

Does the doc just sign all the forms and fax them to the dispensary or health canada and then I get the license?

As far as I can tell the there is no reason this shouldnt work.

Ok the forms...

Im certain i need form A and B2

Question form E1 ive heard the weed from health canada is unsmokable shit so If im just going to buy from dispensaries do I need to fill out this form?

Thanks again I'd be lost with out this community of like minded peeps behind me!

Peace and Pot,

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Posted 01 April 2010 - 06:53 PM

Just realized something ... its over!

In the forms she'll have to recommend how much i should use and if she wouldn't recommend the use of cannabis period she probably wont be willing it fill out that part of the form ... the forms will be incomplete and I wont get a license!

Ah well just have to go down the street and get it like the rest of the criminals in Canada

Peace and Pot,

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Posted 01 April 2010 - 08:23 PM

After the doc fills in the forms you send them to health canada.3-5 months later you get your exemption.On the forms it states 1-3 grams is average usage.There is a dude that gets 60 grams per day.When the doc asked my wife I said 10 grams and thats what he wrote.Maybe try a local compassion club.They may be able to lead you in the direction of a doctor whom will help.There are tons of people who are trying to get a exemption but only a few seem to get it.I think as time goes on it will get easier.4000+ canadians have exemptons of some sort.

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Posted 01 April 2010 - 08:56 PM

I think ill just keep this on the back burner for now wait to see how things progress. Good thing about living in vansterdam is you can get the same quality weed at better prices allbeit with less selection...

Cant wait till 420

Peace and Pot,

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