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Does NASA Data Show That Global Warming Isn’t Causing a Sea Level Rise?

Dubious web sites generously provided the Internet with textbook examples of both cherry-picked data and the shameless conflation of weather with climate.

 
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CLAIM

A recent hiatus in sea level rise conflicts with the scientific consensus regarding global warming.

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ORIGIN

On 26 July 2017, supplement and paranoia peddling website NaturalNews.com made a sweeping conclusion about climate change based on a portion of a single chart they found. The post, by Mike “Health Ranger” Adams, uses a time series of satellite sea level data from the National Aeronautics and Space Administration to argue that climate change is no big deal and that the “mainstream media” is ignoring data that proves him right:

NASA’s own data reveal that world-wide ocean levels have been falling for nearly two years, dropping from a variation of roughly 87.5mm to below 85mm.

These data, of course, clearly contradict the false narrative of rapid, never-ending rising ocean levels that flood continents and drown cities — a key element of the climate change “boogeyman” fiction that’s used to scare gullible youth into making Al Gore rich.

To “prove” this, Adams points to NASA’s satellite altimetry data — used by scientists to precisely measure global average sea level change since 1993 — which he says busts the whole global warming thing wide open, despite its fairly unambiguous long-term upward trend:

 

The NASA chart allegedly showing that sea level is not rising. Credit: NASA.

The region of the chart — around the last two years of the record — that allegedly proves global warming is a lie is highlighted above. It shows a period of generally flat sea level rise. Astute chart readers, however, may note that there have been a number of times throughout the record in which sea level rise has been flat, or even briefly reversed, before continuing the more dominant rising trend. According to University of New South Wales climatologist and sea level expert John Church, this is the reason the “media” is “silent” on the issue; in fact, it is in no way newsworthy:

The short term fall over the last year or so reported on the Natural News website is nothing out of the ordinary and in fact the fall seems less than several previous examples of sea level fall, such as [the drop documented in 2010-2011].  It does not seem to be a particularly noteworthy event.

To understand why the event is not noteworthy, one needs to understand both the short- and long-term drivers of sea level change. From a long-term global perspective, there are two primary drivers of sea level rise: the first is the balance between water trapped in ice and water contained within the ocean itself. Simply put, when ice that is trapped on land melts, it increases the volume of water in the ocean, causing sea level to rise.

The second major driver is known as thermal expansion — when water gets warmer it expands, increasing its volume. Research suggests that these two contributors alone explain 75 percent of the observed sea level rise since 1971.

These larger trends, however, can be dampened (or enhanced) by shorter term weather patterns. The most important factors to consider on this time-scale are the El Niño-La Niña cycle (which affects both water temperature, as well as evaporation and precipitation of moisture) and the hydrological issues associated with where rainwater falls on land. The best illustration of these factors combining to alter the overall trend of sea level rise is the 2010-2011 drop in sea level mentioned above.

In this instance, the confluence of La Niña and a number of other atmospheric circulation patterns forced an anomalously large amount of rain to fall over the uniquely bowl-shaped continent of Australia, as described by Scientific American:

In most cases, though, water that falls on land eventually drains into the ocean. Even if a whole lot of rain fell in South America’s Amazon, for example, it could slow sea-level rise for only about a couple of months, as it slowly made its way to the sea.

So in order to make sea levels fall, the water had to be stored in a place where it didn’t reach the ocean for a long while. That place, it turns out, was Australia. […]

Lake Eyre is the lowest point in Australia. It’s usually a dry, salty flat. But when it rains heavily, the basin fills, and the lake teems with new life, as long-dormant seeds spring to life and birds flock to the lake.

From 2010 to 2011, enough rain fell on Australia to fill the lower part of the lake almost completely, and the upper portion at least 75 percent. Australia got about a foot of rain more than normal over that period, said [National Center for Atmospheric Research scientist John] Fasullo.

The continent stored that excess water for long enough to change global sea levels.

That the world’s smallest continent can affect global sea levels this way is pretty extraordinary, said Fasullo. It’s also rare. […]

In addition to La Niña, other climate variations also played a role. Together, they forced the extraordinary rainfall and water storage in the Australian continent.

Eventually, of course, this water evaporates and returns to the ocean, where it joins the expanding and increasing global ocean reservoir. We spoke to Fasullo — the lead author on the study that documented the cause of the 2010-2011 drop in sea level — about this current hiatus, and he told us it in no way conflicts with our understanding of the connection between global warming and sea level rise:

Of course, this leveling does not conflict with our understanding of sea level rise and its main drivers. It is well known for example that sea level falls (in an anomalous sense) at the end of an El Niño due to drought subsiding over many tropical land areas such as the Amazon (water moves from the ocean to land surface) and heat being released from the ocean (as the tropical upper Pacific Ocean releases heat to the atmosphere, causing contraction).

[The] recent leveling of sea level rise comes on the heels of an unprecedented rate of rise during the four years that preceded it (2011-14). In addition to global warming, this rise was also strongly influenced by the El Niño-La Niña cycle and so it too should not be oversold.

Ultimately, the story published by Adams attempts to disguise a weather as a climatological trend, University of California, Santa Cruz Climatologist Gary Griggs told us:

One or two or three years of weather means very little in the long-term record of sea-level rise just as it would have very little meaning for global temperature records. Due to a variety of atmospheric circulation patterns and variations, temperatures vary from year to year as does rainfall, etc., the recent 4 year drought in the west is a good example.

Using two years of data to make sweeping claims about trends in the global climate system, especially when such fluctuations are known and understood by science, is misleading and inaccurate, and as such we rank this claim as false.

 

https://www.snopes.com/nasa-data-global-warming/

 

 

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On 10/30/2017 at 5:58 AM, Shadey said:

the video is not working for some reason

 

The earth has become so hot your video won't play anymore. 

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CO2 Emissions Hit 67-Year Low In Trump's America, As Rest-Of-World Rises

 

We suspect you won't hear too much about this from the liberal mainstream media, or the environmental movement, or even Al Gore - but, according to the  latest energy report from The Energy Information Administration (EIA), under President Trump, per-capita carbon dioxide emissions are now the lowest they’ve been in nearly seven decades.

 

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-07-08/co2-emissions-hit-67-year-low-trumps-america-rest-world-rises

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Photographer behind viral images of starving polar bear questions climate change narrative it promoted

 

 

Remember the video of an emaciated polar bear that went viral last year? Now, the photographer who captured the shocking images is questioning the climate change narrative tied to the footage.

What are the details?

Writing in an article for the August edition of the National Geographic magazine, photographer Cristina Mittermeier lamented that the image was received by the general public in a way she and her team never intended.

“With this image, we thought we had found a way to help people imagine what the future of climate change might look like. We were, perhaps, naive. The picture went viral—and people took it literally,” Mittermeier wrote.

The footage was captured at Somerset Island in the Canadian Arctic. Mittermeier explained that she snapped photographs while her colleague, Paul Nicklen, videoed the heartbreaking situation. Nicklen later posted his footage to Instagram, explaining it demonstrated what starvation looked like in nature.

 

However, he never blamed climate change, Mittermeier said. 

Then National Geographic published the video, spiraling the narrative out-of-control. The video quickly became the most-watched ever on National Geographic’s website. An estimated 2.5 billion people saw the images after news organizations around the world published stories about it.

Mittermeier explained:

The mission was a success, but there was a problem: We had lost control of the narrative. The first line of the National Geographic video said, “This is what climate change looks like”—with “climate change” highlighted in the brand’s distinctive yellow. In retrospect, National Geographic went too far with the caption. Other news outlets ran dramatic headlines like this one from the Washington Post: “‘We stood there crying’: Emaciated polar bear seen in ‘gut-wrenching’ video and photos.”

We had sent a “gut-wrenching” image out into the world. We probably shouldn’t have been surprised that people didn’t pick up on the nuances we tried to send with it. 

Yet we were shocked by the response. Many people expressed gratitude that we’d shined a light on climate change, but others angrily asked why we had not fed the bear or covered him with blankets or taken him to a vet—none of which would have saved him. Those responses revealed how disconnected people are from wildlife, ecology, and even geography.

In the end, Mittermeier admitted she “can’t say that this bear was starving because of climate change.” Indeed, after the images went viral, some experts said the bear’s condition was attributed to age, illness, or even injury — not climate change.

To some, the group became “another example of environmentalist exaggeration,” Mittermeier said.

“Perhaps we made a mistake in not telling the full story—that we were looking for a picture that foretold the future and that we didn’t know what had happened to this particular polar bear,” she wrote.

What did National Geographic say?

In an editor’s note in the article, the publication wrote:

National Geographic went too far in drawing a definitive connection between climate change and a particular starving polar bear in the opening caption of our video about the animal. We said, “This is what climate change looks like.” While science has established that there is a strong connection between melting sea ice and polar bears dying off, there is no way to know for certain why this bear was on the verge of death.

https://www.theblaze.com/news/2018/07/29/photographer-behind-viral-images-of-starving-polar-bear-questions-liberal-climate-change-narrative

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On 7/11/2018 at 6:08 PM, Mr Hand said:

under President Trump, per-capita carbon dioxide emissions are now the lowest they’ve been in nearly seven decades.

Thats because of all the previous administrations lowering fossil fuel use. I expect it will start to rise again now  over the next few years as Trump is removing all restrictions.

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On 7/30/2018 at 10:49 AM, Shadey said:

Thats because of all the previous administrations lowering fossil fuel use. I expect it will start to rise again now  over the next few years as Trump is removing all restrictions.

There hasn't been any Global Warming in 20 years and you are giving credit to Obama the president of one country? Lol!

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On 8/1/2018 at 12:59 AM, Mr Hand said:

There hasn't been any Global Warming in 20 years

I thought your post was about carbon emissions not global warming?

 

On 8/1/2018 at 12:59 AM, Mr Hand said:

you are giving credit to Obama the president of one country?

The title of your post implies, that Trump, the president of one country, is responsible for the lower carbon emissions?  My post say's previous Administrations, the s on the end means plural or multiple presidents ;)

 

I know the majority of the work in reducing planetary co2 emissions has been done bye other countries, except China and India in the last 4 years. Perhaps its the lowest atm because the USA buys up other countries CO2 quota deficits?

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On 8/1/2018 at 7:52 AM, Shadey said:

I thought your post was about carbon emissions not global warming?

 

The title of your post implies, that Trump, the president of one country, is responsible for the lower carbon emissions?  My post say's previous Administrations, the s on the end means plural or multiple presidents ;)

 

I know the majority of the work in reducing planetary co2 levels has been done bye other countries, except China and India in the last 4 years. Perhaps its the lowest atm because the USA buys up other countries CO2 quota deficits?

No humans have reduced the earths CO2 or temperature. No humans have increased the earths CO2 or temperature. What humans have done was manipulate the data to forward the scam.  All of the global warming for the last 20 years only existed on the internet  and did not match reality. They don't even call it global warming anymore.

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Posted (edited)

so you're saying that global warming is a scam ?

then why is it so hot. been on this earth for 60 years and the climate has changed alot from when i was young.

everybody has their opinion, but when i look out the door it's still a different world then when i grew up.

also why have the seasons changed ,our spring is a month later than usual now - its almost end of june ,and on the other end of summer fall lasts longer.

seems like seasons have shifted by about a month , from what it used to be.

maybe not global warming but definately climate change.

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Keeping this thread alive made sense when this site still had ads, but now?

 

Heh.  Tech has advanced so much in the years since I last argued here (back when I had nothing better to do 😉 ) that pretty much everything I said would come to be has.  Efficiencies have risen, storage is cheaper, and China has cancelled the construction of over 150 coal-fired power plants as they roll out ever more solar (they now lead the world in solar installations), 'tis the way of the future, and there *might* still be a chance for us to get in on something approaching the ground floor...  regarding Canada specifically though, we only have a single solar panel producer with any kind of international presence and they get their parts from China, we soooo bet on the wrong tarry horse...

Anyway, carry on folks.  Where's davidmalmolevine?  He used to enjoy a good hand job. ;)

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On 8/10/2018 at 12:42 AM, Mr Hand said:

No humans have reduced the earths CO2 or temperature. No humans have increased the earths CO2 or temperature.

Every plant I grow breathes in CO2 during  the day and breaths out oxygen at night. By my actions of growing plants I am reducing the planets CO2. I believe I am human as well.

 

Your science knowledge is lacking. All humans have increased the earth's CO2. We breath it out, after we breath in oxygen. Surley by this activity we are all increasing the CO2on this planet.

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Holy crap, there's no arguing the planet is getting hotter as the human population grows. Wether or not we are responsible, humans are going to need to try and do something about it if we want to survive. If reducing carbon emissions helps them that's what we need to be doing.

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On 9/1/2018 at 11:59 AM, Shadey said:

Holy crap, there's no arguing the planet is getting hotter as the human population grows. Wether or not we are responsible, humans are going to need to try and do something about it if we want to survive. If reducing carbon emissions helps them that's what we need to be doing.

 

 

Yes there is. There has been no global warming in 20 years. Has nothing to do with humans and everything to do with the sun. The earth has been much hotter in the past when there were very few humans. 

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