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They originally used wells like most of the USA, or took water from the Colorado River. Then they did this amazing building project called The "boulder/hoover" dam to fill canyons, destroy wildlife, and cover towns and historical sites, and make Lake Mead.

That's where the majority of the water comes. The lake is about 100 ft down from original levels. The city has contracted with the state of Colorado for future water rights, and are building a gigantic pipeline. Really. At least that's what the papers have said. lol.

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it's not the sun's fault because sunspot activity and solar irradiance are well below peak levels:

not according to youre link..it displays a solar irradiance chart that shows the exact opposite...additionally it states what me and hand have been saying all along...that climate and sunspot activity are related.

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During the Maunder Minimum in the 17th Century (c.1650-1720) there were hardly any sunspots at all, and in all likelihood, the intensity of solar radiation was low. This event coincides with a documented period of maximum cooling within the Little Ice Age.

The sun has been in a “Grand Maxima” for most of the past century. This has accounted for much of the natural warming the earth has experienced. But as evident in the high number of spotless days in this solar minimum, the sun is changing states.

or you can subscribe to the stoner theory which is to take a carbon based molecule that earth depends on for life and reclassify as a pollutant instead of a nutrient..

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"...stoner theory...."

I had no idea every respectable scientific institution on planet earth was run by stoners! That would make sense, though.

"No scientific body of national or international standing has maintained a dissenting opinion; the last was the American Association of Petroleum Geologists, which in 2007 updated its 1999 statement rejecting the likelihood of human influence on recent climate with its current non-committal position.[2][3]"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scientific_opinion_on_climate_change

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"not according to youre link..it displays a solar irradiance chart that shows the exact opposite...additionally it states what me and hand have been saying all along...that climate and sunspot activity are related."

- huh? solar irradiance is well below peak levels during a decade of peak temperatures...solar activity over the past few years has been at a record minimum...according to your solar climate theory, the planet should be in a deep freeze...it's not the sun

http://science.nasa.gov/science-news/science-at-nasa/2009/01apr_deepsolarminimum/

Deep Solar Minimum

April 1, 2009: The sunspot cycle is behaving a little like the stock market. Just when you think it has hit bottom, it goes even lower.

2008 was a bear. There were no sunspots observed on 266 of the year's 366 days (73%). To find a year with more blank suns, you have to go all the way back to 1913, which had 311 spotless days: plot. Prompted by these numbers, some observers suggested that the solar cycle had hit bottom in 2008.

Maybe not. Sunspot counts for 2009 have dropped even lower. As of March 31st, there were no sunspots on 78 of the year's 90 days (87%).

It adds up to one inescapable conclusion: "We're experiencing a very deep solar minimum," says solar physicist Dean Pesnell of the Goddard Space Flight Center.

"This is the quietest sun we've seen in almost a century," agrees sunspot expert David Hathaway of the Marshall Space Flight Center.

In 2008, the sun set the following records:

A 50-year low in solar wind pressure: Measurements by the Ulysses spacecraft reveal a 20% drop in solar wind pressure since the mid-1990s—the lowest point since such measurements began in the 1960s. The solar wind helps keep galactic cosmic rays out of the inner solar system. With the solar wind flagging, more cosmic rays are permitted to enter, resulting in increased health hazards for astronauts. Weaker solar wind also means fewer geomagnetic storms and auroras on Earth.

A 12-year low in solar "irradiance": Careful measurements by several NASA spacecraft show that the sun's brightness has dropped by 0.02% at visible wavelengths and 6% at extreme UV wavelengths since the solar minimum of 1996. The changes so far are not enough to reverse the course of global warming, but there are some other significant side-effects: Earth's upper atmosphere is heated less by the sun and it is therefore less "puffed up." Satellites in low Earth orbit experience less atmospheric drag, extending their operational lifetimes. Unfortunately, space junk also remains longer in Earth orbit, increasing hazards to spacecraft and satellites.

A 55-year low in solar radio emissions: After World War II, astronomers began keeping records of the sun's brightness at radio wavelengths. Records of 10.7 cm flux extend back all the way to the early 1950s. Radio telescopes are now recording the dimmest "radio sun" since 1955: plot. Some researchers believe that the lessening of radio emissions is an indication of weakness in the sun's global magnetic field. No one is certain, however, because the source of these long-monitored radio emissions is not fully understood.

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The greater issue is not global warming. The really important aspect of global warming alarmists and most save the planet activists is their complete denial of the shell game being played out in high places where the Al Gore capitalists pull strings to enrich their lives at others` expense while they all claim they`re doing good things for all of us.

More than a few real environmentalists have turned their backs on the hijacking of something worthwhile before the G8, G20 etc. began holding the reins.

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"More than a few real environmentalists have turned their backs on the hijacking of something worthwhile before the G8, G20 etc. began holding the reins."

The little black dude is you, and the little pink dude is what you do to reality, history and facts.

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"The greater issue is not global warming."

- ok, the topic of this mega-thread is a petty concern

"The really important aspect of global warming alarmists and most save the planet activists is their complete denial of the shell game being played out in high places where the Al Gore capitalists pull strings to enrich their lives at others` expense while they all claim they`re doing good things for all of us."

- global warming threatens to destroy the planet, but you're more concerned about activists making money

buh!

are you similarly distressed by oil corporations who enjoy american 'personhood' while injecting hundreds of millions of dollars into the US political process (with an open bias against their profitable oily widgets relationship with global warming? al gore is a nobody compared to them....oil corporations donated a record $100 million to the campaign to defeat proposition 87...al gore's support of proposition 87 pales in comparison to the oil industry support against proposition 87

al gore is a peanut under the oil corporation boot and he's not even an organic peanut

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Guys who represent the interests of companies such as the owners of the Exxon Valdez or the BP Gulf rig are fast loosing the people's favor. Especially if they are also foul-mouthed, illogical trolls.

Tell operation Cointelpro to send us some better sparring partners ... these ones suck.

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Discovery Channel gunman mad over global warming

By Jessica Wilson - KETK / Reporter

Saturday, September 4, 2010 - 9:42am

MARYLAND - An update on Wednesday's hostage situation near DC. After a night searching for explosives the all clear's been given at the Discovery Channel building in Maryland.

Police found 4 bombs including two made with propane. They're also gathering evidence from when gunman James Lee stormed into the building and took three of 1,900 workers hostage.

During the ordeal.... Lee ended up on the phone with an NBC producer. Lee talked to the producer for about

10 minutes.

But the standoff continued for another four hours until Lee was shot and killed by police.

The gunman was reportedly angry over the Discovery Channel's lack of programming on global warming.

Lee said he experienced an ''awakening" when he watched former Vice President Al Gore's documentary ''An Inconvenient Truth." WTF

http://www.ketknbc.com/news/discovery-channel-gunman-mad-over-global-warming

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Posts: 2381 "The greater issue is not global warming."

- ok, the topic of this mega-thread is a petty concern

In light of scientific admissions which clearly show that mankind survives through adaptation, not by saving the planet, global warming should be only a toss up. There will be good farming further North real soon, while the rest of the Earth stays rather moderated. Pakistan drowns, but Western Europe and the Midwest USA have bumper crops. What is so new? Rapid cummunication, not weird weather.

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adaptation isn't the answer...adaptation can take hundreds of thousands or millions of years...i suppose we could have waited for humanity and animals to adapt to the presence of DDT or ozone depleting chemicals that we introduced into the environment, but scientific admissions clearly showed that it would be smarter to stop using certain chemicals which were causing significant damage to the environment...capitalism adapted to the regulation of those chemicals much quicker than we could ever adapt to the presence of those chemicals...way way WAY back in those ancient times, conservatives and liberals could agree on such matters but these days people on both sides of the political divide seem willing to die for their partisan principles

similarly, scientific admissions clearly show that burning fossil fuels poses a threat to humanity that cannot wait a million years for adaptation to counter...the possibility of good farming up north 'real soon' does not address the loss of arable land due to climate change and urbanization right now...adding to the problem is the looming reduction in oil supply which is coming more real soon than orange trees near the arctic circle cuz we need oil to move a billion people and food and infrastructure all over the planet as they are displaced by the environmental factors to which they cannot adapt

we're running out of time to address problems that we caused and we can't wait another million years for people to grow into cold blooded sea creatures who can swim to the arctic farmlands...it's not about saving the planet which will be around long after humanity is extinguished...it's about saving humanity and civilizations (and that includes capitalism/liberty too)

you don't hate capitalism and liberty too, do ya?? (tee hee)

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http://www.democracynow.org/2010/9/8/raj_patel_mozambiques_food_riots_are

Raj Patel: Mozambique’s Food Riots Are the True Face of Global Warming

Mozambique-food-demo

Thirteen people died and hundreds were wounded last week in the African nation of Mozambique when police cracked down on a three-day protest over a 30 percent hike in the price of bread. The UN says the riots in Mozambique should be a wake-up call for governments that have ignored food security problems since the global food crisis of 2008, when countries around the world saw angry protests in the streets over the rising prices of basic food items. We speak with author and activist Raj Patel. [includes rush transcript]

"RAJ PATEL: Well, I think this is the interesting point. I mean, there’s a lot of questioning among the punditry about whether we are in fact back in 2008. If you cast your mind back, what we saw in 2007, 2008 were record rises in the price of food. And, in fact, in 2008 and 2009, we had pretty good harvests. But the quality and the quantity of the harvests doesn’t matter so much as people’s ability to access that food. And what we’re seeing since 2007 and 2008 is that there are hundreds of millions of more people who are now poor and caught in the global recession and unable to afford food. And if the way that we distribute food is through the market, then the main barrier to access isn’t the quantity of food that’s available, but the poverty of the people who are unable to access it. And that’s why, for many people, the crisis of 2008 hasn’t really stopped. Since 2008, we’ve had now hundreds of millions of more people who are hungry, so that now the number of hungry people in the world, according to the last count in 2009, was estimated at 1.06 billion people who are hungry. So, in fact, things, for many people, are much worse than they were in 2008, not necessarily because harvests are lower, but because people are poorer."

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africa is not starving because of global warming, they r starving because the leaders are totally corrupt...

democracynow.com states that the people are hungry "not because harvests are lower, but because people are poorer"...

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africa is not starving because of global warming, they r starving because the leaders are totally corrupt...

democracynow.com states that the people are hungry "not because harvests are lower, but because people are poorer"...

Americans have set up water purification systems to help the African people but the corrupt government thugs come along and take them out for their own use or for scrap.

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Greek P.M. admits carbon tax is a ploy to raise money to fund the bailouts...

greek P.M admits carbon tax a ploy to raise revenue

We all know it's been a big wealth redistribution scam from the start.

Gore Admits He Was Wrong About Ethanol Subsidies: ‘Not Good Policy’Former Vice President Al Gore is admitting that he was wrong about “first generation” ethanol subsidies, calling them “not good policy” and admitting his support of them were clouded by his presidential ambitions.

From Reuters:

“It is not a good policy to have these massive subsidies for (U.S.) first generation ethanol,” said Gore, speaking at a green energy business conference in Athens sponsored by Marfin Popular Bank.

“First generation ethanol I think was a mistake. The energy conversion ratios are at best very small.

“It’s hard once such a programme is put in place to deal with the lobbies that keep it going.”

He explained his own support for the original programme on his presidential ambitions.

“One of the reasons I made that mistake is that I paid particular attention to the farmers in my home state of Tennessee, and I had a certain fondness for the farmers in the state of Iowa because I was about to run for president.”

Gore also said that rising food prices could be fueled by the ethanol craze. “The competition with food prices is real,” he said.

But Gore didn’t give up on a fuel subsidies altogether. Instead, he supports technology that extracts fuel from other things such as wood and grass. He called that process “second and third generation” ethanol, and supports it because he says it won’t compete with food.

UPDATE:

As Noel Sheppard over at NewsBusters reminds us, “Gore was the tie-breaking vote in the Senate mandating the use of ethanol in 1994.”

Sheppard shares his thoughts:

So more than ten years ago, Gore supported an expensive, “not good policy” because he thought it would help him get elected president.

Yet media don‘t believe he’d misrepresent the threat of manmade global warming in order to become extremely rich.

UPDATE II:

As Hot Air’s Ed Morrissey points out, a 2005 Slate report shows that the next generation of ethanol production as touted by Gore is just as expensive as the “old” kind:

David Pimentel, a professor of ecology at Cornell University who has been studying grain alcohol for 20 years, and Tad Patzek, an engineering professor at the University of California, Berkeley, co-wrote a recent report that estimates that making ethanol from corn requires 29 percent more fossil energy than the ethanol fuel itself actually contains.

The two scientists calculated all the fuel inputs for ethanol production—from the diesel fuel for the tractor planting the corn, to the fertilizer put in the field, to the energy needed at the processing plant—and found that ethanol is a net energy-loser. According to their calculations, ethanol contains about 76,000 BTUs per gallon, but producing that ethanol from corn takes about 98,000 BTUs. For comparison, a gallon of gasoline contains about 116,000 BTUs per gallon. But making that gallon of gas—from drilling the well, to transportation, through refining—requires around 22,000 BTUs.

In addition to their findings on corn, they determined that making ethanol from switch grass requires 50 percent more fossil energy than the ethanol yields, wood biomass 57 percent more, and sunflowers 118 percent more. The best yield comes from soybeans, but they, too, are a net loser, requiring 27 percent more fossil energy than the biodiesel fuel produced. In other words, more ethanol production will increase America’s total energy consumption, not decrease it. [Emphasis added]

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Shurmus

Posted on November 22, 2010 at 9:32am

Welcome to your party, Mr. Gore

http://www.slugbuddies.com

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snowleopard3200 {mix art}

Posted on November 22, 2010 at 9:38am

Welcome to the jungle of real life Mr Gore, it is about time.

Report Post » TruthTalker

Posted on November 22, 2010 at 9:41am

Gore is wrong on much more than that.

Report Post » Bad Thunder

Posted on November 22, 2010 at 9:48am

Gore admitting he was wrong? Better keep an eye on his other hand……..

Report Post » James

Posted on November 22, 2010 at 9:52am

This is a start Mr. Gore but you have been wrong about much more than just this.

Report Post » HillBillySam1

Posted on November 22, 2010 at 9:59am

The question is, why didn’t Mr. Brilliant think that using corn to make ethanol would have a detrimental effect on food prices?? Didn’t any of his handlers inform him that corn, and corn products, make up a great deal of our food supply?? Isn’t it so sad that such a visionary man such as Al Gore could not see the corn maze for the corn field??

Just remember this Al when the massage therapist brings you your bowl of corn flakes……the gas that is produced from it CANNOT be used to produce electricity for your eco-friendly, mercury filled, long-life light bulbs…..that is the inconvenient truth……

Report Post » tobywil2

Posted on November 22, 2010 at 10:02am

The real question is, has he ever been right? http://commonsense21c.com/

Report Post » HKS

Posted on November 22, 2010 at 10:06am

I think old Al suffers form “George Costanza Itus” everything he says or thinks is wrong. He was borne 180 degrees out of real.

Report Post » drbage

Posted on November 22, 2010 at 10:07am

Mr. Gore, how is the sale of your carbon credits going? Do you still think that you and your minions know more than the parents of America?

Report Post » Marc Jacobs

Posted on November 22, 2010 at 10:20am

Dear Mr. Gore,

May I recommend that you pick up a copy of “An Inconvenient Book.“ You will learn that you were wrong about the whole ”global warming thing” too. Now how do you go about making reparations to the entire world for this ridiculous religion that you have encouraged the world to join? You have a lot of work to do. Me, let me just take a moment of Thanksgiving and thank God for the Electoral College!

Report Post » pattyto

Posted on November 22, 2010 at 10:28am

Is he gong give back the money he made of this? Doubt it.

Report Post » ron the veteran

Posted on November 22, 2010 at 10:41am

WE KNEW YOU WERE WRONG LONG BEFORE YOU DID! al (lieing sac of crap) gore your a theif and a liar. you and your global warming scam you belong in jail for felony theft and fraud. your actions show you are not as conserned and you tell people. how much did you plan on making off the carbon credit scam? 10 trillion is big bucks every year. what was your cut mr gore? all you democommies need to be investigated and jailed for your actions. stand up america demand they all be prosicuted for their crimes against america and americans. we let them screw us then we pay them for life. what the hell is wrong with us? its no wonder obamacommies and the left think they can screw us. we let them do it all the time. its time to all stand up and hold them to account. no slaps on the hand or a good talking to. its no wonder they screw us. we dont hold them accountable. charly rangel gets a good talking to and a dont do that again. and hes reelected? what the hell is wrong with you america? where are the american balls we used to have? have you all turned into (excuse the word) pussys? im watching my country fall apart because americans cant get off their asses long enough to do anything about it. im telling you youll get up when they are kicking down your door to take your guns. its too late then. the time to do it is now before they pull any more crap on us. its time to get all our questions answered by this prez and our government. if the answers are not right or they refuse to answer its time to remove them. i dont know about you but having two communist sitting on our supreme court is very bothersome. doesnt anyone check the backgrounds on anyone anymore? you dont leave any blanks on the question forms. no answer means no holdie office. we brought this on ourselves its up to us to fix it. and to you commies we will do what ever it takes to rid our nation of you.

Report Post » ron the veteran

Posted on November 22, 2010 at 10:42am

no! im not pissed at all!

Report Post » A Doctors Labor Is Not My Right

Posted on November 22, 2010 at 10:55am

@snowleopard3200,

That’s just the increasing lack of relevance talking.

He know’s full well that Global Warming / Climate Change / Climate Disruption is a lie which is only designed to fulfill a Marxist agenda.

Report Post » barbaraw62

Posted on November 22, 2010 at 10:58am

I wonder if he will give back the money to the American people? How about subsidizing us and our increased gas and food prices? HE shlemeal…….. oh, ooppss… he said he made a mistake…. Now what is he going to do about it? ABSOLUTELY NOTHING is my guess… what’s yours?

Report Post » CatB

Posted on November 22, 2010 at 11:56am

Just a start … GORE is wrong on most things!

Report Post » ozchambers

Posted on November 22, 2010 at 12:09pm

Al, it must suck to always be the last to know……

Report Post » Taquoshi

Posted on November 22, 2010 at 12:51pm

I am SHOCKED, totally SHOCKED!!!! I mean, who knew???!!!

Was this a blinding flash of the obvious?

Report Post » CultureWarriors

Posted on November 22, 2010 at 12:59pm

Al is a liar and an idiot – nuf said. Only morons listen to Al.

Report Post » kreese

Posted on November 22, 2010 at 1:52pm

What has he been right about? He should be jailed for fraud!

Report Post » Beckofile

Posted on November 22, 2010 at 2:11pm

Let’s see Mr.Goricle….Wrong about subsidising the use of shoving food into our gas tanks….Maybe wrong about gloBULL warming. Carbon Credit anyone?

Report Post » roguetea

Posted on November 22, 2010 at 2:13pm

rogue, Thrashing Evolves America

I believe, this admission of personal greed and governing stupidity will be measured as favorable, as compared to those who stupidly throw around the word ‘stupidly’ for the sake of racial greed. Does Gore wish to reshape the 2012 options? Gore is overloaded with opportunities, to confess greed and stupidity. Will he ever confess the biggies? Big Government is bad, free enterprise rules, representing the consenting governed is the only priority, the fundamentals of the Constitution, fiscal conservatism. I think not. The increasing mess made by the ruling party in DC coupled with the decisive surge at the start of this month, those on the far left with governing greed,… well, their heads thrash, speculating on manipulating freshened hope.

Hillary has clearly decided to appear as the lead, the cool and calm lead, presumably hands off. But remember, she is a Progressive with Pragmatic overtones. Full reversal, a flip-flop, is, well progressively pragmatic. She stands prominently above the fray with no need to contend. Simply continuing as she is, holds her as striking down vantage. Does she speculate, post 11-2-10, her party is doomed to completely loose 12. Does she now speculate 2016 is the time to surge back? Will the likes of Gore and Dean make 12 a challenge? Might Hillary remain above it all, ready to rescue the party from utter chaos as the party decides on 12?

Gyrating political has-beens, always raise questions. When, based on past rhetoric, politicians have distanced themselves from the heart and sole of American Exceptionalism, what they plot for theirs, and our, future will serve us poorly. However, It is entertaining to watch them flap in the high winds of one another and deepening currents of America’s best. The concept that their days are well over will be slow to dawn… some will always remain in the dark. Go for it Gore, you have a ton to confess and it will be good for your soul and the heart of the nation.

tea party, Own 11, ROGUE ON

Report Post » oldoldtimer

Posted on November 22, 2010 at 2:35pm

1/3 rd of all corn produced goes to make ethonol. That is why food prices is high. There is corn in almost every processed food plus it is the primary live stock food. Ethonol costs so much to make it add around 40 cents to the price of every gallonof gas. It is not economical to make ethonol without Gov’t subsidies. Making ethonol mandatory actually increased our demand for oil by 15%. Ethonol/gas gets fewer miles per gallon than straight gas. It also allows unscrupilious dealers to water down gas. For every gallon of water they add they make $2.80+ pure profit. Watch the tail pipe of the car ahead of you at a red light. Watch the water run out.

Report Post » rosecityken

Posted on November 22, 2010 at 4:28pm

So does this make him an “inconvenient ” truther? At the least it vindicates all of us who called him out as backed by bull$#!t and like noel sheppard questions “So more than ten years ago, Gore supported an expensive, “not good policy” because he thought it would help him get elected president.

Yet media don‘t believe he’d misrepresent the threat of manmade global warming in order to become extremely rich?”

Report Post » tbone0106

Posted on November 22, 2010 at 6:21pm

I worked years ago on the building of a POET ethanol refinery (the biggest still you can imagine) in Marion, OH. The POET people on site admitted to me that without the 45-cent-per-gallon subsidy from the US taxpayers and the federal mandate to put the ethanol in gasoline, POET would simply cease to exist.

I’ve always said that we need government to do those things that no rational individual would ever consider doing.

Report Post » Art Vandalay

Posted on November 22, 2010 at 7:36pm

welcome to reality

Report Post » John Gregory

Posted on November 22, 2010 at 8:49pm

Take it from wood… then building costs can go up.

Report Post » Robert W

Posted on November 23, 2010 at 7:41pm

Al Gorelione has been wrong before….I know, shocking. Who bout that 10ft…yes feet of snow, in Kirkland Ca. over the weekend. I know I know liberals…the earth is so warm that its cold. I didnt go to Harvard so that insanity doesnt make sense to me.

Report Post » LUDWIKA BRONISLAWA

Posted on November 23, 2010 at 9:42pm

You know what’s funny? Just today I saw a gas station sign advertising that it’s premium and midgrade gas was ETHANOL FREE! My reaction? HA! I did, I laughed out loud just like that! I think I heard it might ruin your carburator and engine or something silly like that. Easy fix, right? As for the food prices and other ridiculous assertions………………..TOLD YA SO! Al Gore, whatta piecea………

…………………………………………….work!

Report Post » M31Sailor

Posted on November 22, 2010 at 9:32am

Gore the carbon whore

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tobywil2

Posted on November 22, 2010 at 10:03am

THE GREAT “GLOBAL WARMING HOAX”

The proposals to combat “GLOBAL WARMING” have more potential to destroy our freedom and prosperity than any issue since WORLD WAR II. The cost of energy is increased by all these proposals. Energy is contained in all the products used to sustain our lives.

These proposals will be devastating to the poor, where the cost of survival consumes all their income.

Do you realize that these proposals are to combat an issue that has not even been proven to exist?

AND YOU LAUGH AT DON QUIXOTE?

THESE PROPOSALS WILL ONLY ENHANCE THE POWER OF THE “PEERS.” “CAP AND TRADE WILL DESTROY YOUR WEALTH AND FREEDOM!!

BRACE YOURSELF, THOMAS PAINE, REJOICE YOU “PEERS” THE TYRANNY OF

KING GEORGE III IS BEING RESTORED BUT UNDER NEW MANAGEMENT!

http://commonsense21c.com/CLIMATE.html

Report Post » CatB

Posted on November 22, 2010 at 11:57am

He needs to give back the money he has made promoting FRAUD!

Report Post » mrclean

Posted on November 23, 2010 at 6:14pm

Whore Gore, who supposedly launched the internet, is a lying bastard of a polititian who’s right up there with oblahma the socialist and his entire admininstration. Losers every one.

Our only hope, as most of us already know, is God. We do our part by vetting every single candidate running for high office in 2012 and there might be an itty bitty slight sliver of a chance that maybe, just maybe, we’ll vote in a non-bastard and non-liar. There’s a first time for everything, even an honest polititian…… One can only hope.

Report Post » 13thgenerati0namerican

Posted on November 22, 2010 at 9:33am

I love pancakes in the morning, but I will also eat a burger or something delicious like that!

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Angie

Posted on November 22, 2010 at 10:09am

Animal eater.

Report Post » 13thgenerati0namerican

Posted on November 22, 2010 at 11:41am

I prefer the term, tasty food eater thank you very much

Report Post » untameable-kate

Posted on November 22, 2010 at 12:16pm

Animals are yummy, people are omnivores, get over it.

Report Post » Augydoggy

Posted on November 22, 2010 at 6:39pm

By consuming beef I am controling methane gas which according to Gore is a green house gas?? more cows to ya Mr Bore..

Report Post » ebaytoad

Posted on November 22, 2010 at 9:33am

Don’t worry Mr.Gore, we get it…..course you already know karma is a b***ch!

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James

Posted on November 22, 2010 at 9:55am

Karma is a Behar.

http://crazyconservative.wordpress.com

Report Post » drbage

Posted on November 22, 2010 at 10:07am

@James

That is insulting to Karma.

Report Post » ItsallaboutJesus

Posted on November 22, 2010 at 7:41pm

I agree with both comments!

Report Post » john seven eighteen

Posted on November 22, 2010 at 9:34am

Good grief, did someone slip him some truth serum? If not, watch out ‘cuz he’s selling something else, folks?

BTW, ambissions????? Come on.

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TruthTalker

Posted on November 22, 2010 at 9:47am

I think Mr. Seidl tried to spell ambitions.

Report Post » snowleopard3200 {mix art}

Posted on November 22, 2010 at 9:34am

Al Gore is still in the economic clueless zone, and is most likely poised to make a future from any movement in the corn and ethanol markets. I am so glad he was not made President, or we would already have been in worse shape than ever, at least until Obama came along.

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1TrueOne55

Posted on November 22, 2010 at 12:59pm

The only thing an Al Gore presidency would have done was to start this process earlier and then Obama would not have been president, he would still be a Senator in Congress since then Bush would not have been president and all the crap that went with it.

Report Post » halfbrain

Posted on November 22, 2010 at 9:34am

Thanks Al…now go away.

Report Post » Log in to ReplyReply 13thgenerati0namerican

Posted on November 22, 2010 at 9:35am

My friend Dan Foster says that it’s not good to eat breakfast foods for dinner. Allthough he may be some authority on the matter..he is in charge of the green nation of greater Elkhart county but I digress I just love breakfast for dinner. It’s delicious pancakes and those fat sausages that I look forward to all day long and at last night arrives and Dan has to get all over me for eating breakfast for dinner! Whats up Dan? you got me all wrong man! I need to eat, Man’s gotta eat!

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M31Sailor

Posted on November 22, 2010 at 9:51am

13th

Dan here, I didn’t like you as a kid. When you pulled the wings off of fly’s, or when you put the kitten’s in a burlap bag and threw them in the river, I knew you were gonna turn out bad. I stopped letting you hang around us when i caught you trying to molest that 8 year old boy. Thank God I stopped you before the TSA patdown you were forcing on this kid went very far. Please stop sending me these love notes because my wife gets very upset at your perversions.. Please lose my number, your calling my cell 30 times a day is rather irritating.

Truly

Dan Foster

13thgenerati0namerican

Posted on November 22, 2010 at 9:58am

You wish you were half the man Dan Foster is! he helps those less fortunate, and he would even help you! Stop wasting my time and get out there and WAKE UP AMERICA!

Report Post » EqualJustice

Posted on November 22, 2010 at 10:05am

M31Sailor.. TOO FUNNY! smile You should have mentioned that his mommy, Arianna called and wants him to come home now to the hufy po. Thanks, made my day.

Report Post » M31Sailor

Posted on November 22, 2010 at 10:14am

13th

Dan here.I tried to help you (less fortunate) but no matter what I advised you , nothing stuck. Please stop hanging around where I volunteer, even the Down‘s Syndrome kid’s are complaining about you. BTW, I was looking thru my great great grandfathers copy of the Elkhart Daily News and came across this headline “First Generation American arrested for molesting a sheep”, Please lose our number.

Imploringly Dan Foster

Report Post » mrclean

Posted on November 23, 2010 at 6:29pm

13thgen,

Mrs. Foster here. We know you love sucking on those fat breakfast wieners at night, but how bout you man up and leave those little breakfast boys…oops, I mean wieners alone. I am sick of seeing that disgusting juice running down your chin you little slime ball.

Report Post » Conserving Ink

Posted on November 22, 2010 at 9:35am

Subsidies of any sort are an assault on the Free Market, they skew the results of honest dealings. The problem is Liberals don’t trust the results of honest dealings. They can’t control them or understand the motivation behind them.

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James

Posted on November 22, 2010 at 9:54am

Exactly! Everytime the govenment steps in to “help”, they make things worse.

http://crazyconservative.wordpress.com

Report Post » ron the veteran

Posted on November 22, 2010 at 10:57am

libtards just want to get a cut of everything they think they are intitled to take it from others. just so they can give it to anyone who will vote for them and give some back to them. ie. the unions. i got something for those who think they are intitled to any of my property, and ill bet they cant carry it for very far eather. its time to put an end to this government theft of our money. we pay it we should say how much we will spend for government. and we need a civilian ethics board for our government. and everyone has to answer to them.

Report Post » untameable-kate

Posted on November 22, 2010 at 12:53pm

Ron, that’s not a bad idea, made up of buisness leaders, parents and regular working class Joes. The very people the gov is robbing blind.

Report Post » snowleopard3200 {mix art}

Posted on November 22, 2010 at 2:18pm

@Ron

Excellent to the extreme. Lets get it done.

Report Post » jagr1850

Posted on November 22, 2010 at 9:37am

that al gore is certainly one smart dude !!!! i knew his three brothers well…..MOE…LARRY AND CURLY……REAL FUNNY GROUP OF GUYS…

Report Post » Log in to ReplyReply BernieKittyCat

Posted on November 22, 2010 at 9:37am

Do you mean “ambitions”? That’s the 2nd typo in 3 articles this morning, guys!

Report Post » Log in to ReplyReply pcantidote

Posted on November 22, 2010 at 9:37am

So he admits that it was all about getting votes in Iowa. Did you hear that you mindless progressive sheep?

Report Post » Log in to ReplyReply 338lapua

Posted on November 22, 2010 at 9:37am

It is truly breathtaking that what I and many, many others have known and also have spoken out about is only just now dawning on a goof like ALGORE. Ethanol was filthy when it was first used, it is filthy now. The damage it does to engines and fuel systems is monumental. And we are using our food supply…..for really inferior fuel. Welcome to planet Earth AL!

Report Post » Log in to ReplyReply Bobby P

Posted on November 22, 2010 at 9:37am

My car uses recycled dinosaurs. I guess I’m green.

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aLinedog

Posted on November 22, 2010 at 9:54am

Hahahhahhahhahahahahahahahahhaha!!!! Brilliant!

Report Post » KCMike

Posted on November 22, 2010 at 5:27pm

I want that as a bumper sticker!

Report Post » Jake Wilde

Posted on November 22, 2010 at 9:38am

Moron! This entire subject burns me up to no end. Americans are pushing for recreational and medicinal use of marijuana, but we don’t consider hemp for industry. It is the only thing that could work yet we want to make algae or sugar beets magically work. People wake up and stop the 1930 propaganda.

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svedka

Posted on November 22, 2010 at 9:51am

Thats right, I just ordered hemp material for draperies in the house. Cost was reasonable, they will be machine washable and durable. Everyone smoking this stuff must be too busy watching Good Times reruns to really be thinking. Hemp is a very large part of history and was there for the founding of this country.

Report Post » Jake Wilde

Posted on November 22, 2010 at 10:14am

Henry Ford wanted to use hemp for bio-methanol to power cars. He had fields of it. Modern cars can run directly on it and it doesn’t take 25 gallons of fresh water per gallon made to produce it. Ethanol is the dumbest thing there ever was as it is an additive that is harsh on engines and not a primary fuel source. This is all a big lie and they don’t want people to know the truth.

Report Post » proudinfidel54

Posted on November 23, 2010 at 1:13am

Willie Nelson did a commercial about useing Hemp instead of trees for paper pulp the crop would only take 6 monthes to repopulate compared to 20 years for pine trees and the yeild per acre would be comperable, yet the gov. ignores these facts. For those of who think the crop would be misused need only realize that the male plants are the ones used for hemp production and any stoner would tell you that the male plants aren’t any good for getting high.

Report Post » Anonimouse

Posted on November 22, 2010 at 9:38am

Oops.

Report Post » Log in to ReplyReply TexasHillsPatriot

Posted on November 22, 2010 at 9:39am

Ambissions? Are you kidding me? Who is writing this stuff, third graders? That’s not just a typo!

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GMango

Posted on November 22, 2010 at 9:46am

I agree. I like the site but I cringe every time I read it. It’s like a school newspaper, very amateur with all the typos and bad writing. Is there no money in the budget for an editor or proofreader?

Report Post » proudinfidel54

Posted on November 23, 2010 at 1:23am

Gmango & Texashillspatriot you two can’t see the forest for the trees…lighten up

Report Post » 13thgenerati0namerican

Posted on November 22, 2010 at 9:39am

Al Gore if you idiots remember!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! gave us those tax credits…HELLO? Wake up America Al gore is not your enemy, the conservative right is your enemy Wake Up America and fight injustices laid upon us by the evil right!

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M31Sailor

Posted on November 22, 2010 at 10:25am

13th

Dan here. Get help fast

Pleadingly

Dan Foster

Report Post » Max jones

Posted on November 22, 2010 at 10:43am

hey 13 It is very apparent to me that what we need is balance. Less accusations and partisanship and more co-operation. Less anger and more concern. The Right is not evil, but communism IS. The right wants to restore our liberties and individual responsibility. The left wants to take care of those people who can’t do it on their own. Both of these goals are honorable. Our natural resources are getting very expensive, and our needs increase every day. Terrorism affects everyone, and our security should be a priority for both sides. If the Left can’t do it without despotism then let the free market have a chance. There is no reason to imprison ourselves with intrusive laws and statutes. Be brave. Not fearful. Be faithful. Not full of doubt. Helpful, not a hindrance to freedom.

Do you really want martial law? Do you really think we are safer with out our firearms?do you really want to pay 100.00 for a loaf of bread? We must rein in the Fed and put some fiscal responsiblity back in our govt. It is going to take TEAMWORK to get anything done.

Are you a mindless sheep willing to do whatever it takes to install world governance? Are you an American who is proud of his nation and wants to get it back from the greedy overlords that are threatening our very lives.

The Tea party took the first step toward restoration, and put some people in office who have a chance to begin the purge that must take place if we are to survive as a nation. The progressive movement IS the push for the New World Order, and can’t be the answer.

The average man is NOT your enemy, He is your hope for the future.

Report Post » nephewofdboone

Posted on November 22, 2010 at 10:59am

You’re seeing a whole team of psychiatrists, aren’t you? It isn’t helping.

–Sixteenth Generation American

Report Post » proudinfidel54

Posted on November 23, 2010 at 1:19am

Max Jones you are wasting your time on this guy not that your words were not eloquent, they just fell on deaf ears, 13th degeneration thrives on discourse.

Report Post » ProudTeaPartyMember

Posted on November 22, 2010 at 9:40am

“I only wanted these subsidies so I would advance my own political career. I didn’t care if it screwed America and Americans”.

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nathanhale

Posted on November 22, 2010 at 3:05pm

That’s exactly what I read! Great minds, huh?

Report Post » livingfree

Posted on November 22, 2010 at 9:41am

Beware, I am guessing he has another scam brewing. We should not be surprised that a left wing nut job politician is out for anything but his own agenda.

Report Post » Log in to ReplyReply p8triot

Posted on November 22, 2010 at 9:42am

It has to be hard for Al after his Global Warming pet died.

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Goldenyears22

Posted on November 22, 2010 at 9:51pm

It isn’t totally dead yet, I’m still hearing they are trying to revive that dead horse.

Report Post » temple62

Posted on November 22, 2010 at 9:42am

The sex crazed poodle comes out of hiding.

Report Post » Log in to ReplyReply Outland9

Posted on November 22, 2010 at 9:42am

Wrong? WRONG? – mr gore you’ve never been right!

Report Post » Log in to ReplyReply grandmaof5

Posted on November 22, 2010 at 9:46am

Gore thought he could make the big bucks; he didn’t give a flip about the farmers or anybody who had to pay higher prices for corn products. He is the true definition of a “money grubbing ho”.

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ilovethiscountry

Posted on November 22, 2010 at 11:58am

From another grandma of 5. It was pretty obvious that his green agenda was to make money. If it wasn’t he would be following a green living agenda. I wonder what he has to gain by admitting he was wrong!!

Report Post » Cabo King

Posted on November 22, 2010 at 9:47am

Gores brain has swelled up from global stupidity

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Evidence of Solar Scientists Raise Fears of Imminent Ice Age

23 September 2010

New study by American solar experts identifies a sharp fall in sunspot activity since 2007 that fits the hallmarks of a soon arriving ice age.

Solar scientists, not to be confused with climate scientists, study the most important heat engine driving our planet’s temperatures-the sun.

Matthew Penn and William Livingston, solar astronomers with the National Solar Observatory (NSO) in Tucson, Arizona, have been following a marked decrease in sunspot activity recently. Reputable studies link a prolonged drop in sunspot activity to a cooling epoch or even a potential new ice age as more sunspots correlate with more global warming, while fewer sunspots are proven to match episodes of long-term cooling.

Since the formation of the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) in 1988 the talk has been about global warming. But 22 years on the evidence has grown to raise fears of a catastrophic climate switch in the opposite direction. We look at the evidence that is raising some very serious questions in the scientific community.

Zeeman Splitting Technique Raises Solar Alarm

Penn and Livingston used a measuring technique known as Zeeman splitting to study the magnetic strength of sunspots. The technique measures the distance between a pair of infrared spectral lines in a spectrograph from the light emitted by iron atoms in the atmosphere of the sun.

After examining 1500 sunspots they found that the average strength of the magnetic field of the sunspots has dropped by almost 40 percent in recent years. The reasons for the decline are unknown, but Penn and Livingston predict only half of the normal sunspots may appear on the surface of the Sun by 2021. Below that strength the formation of sunspots becomes almost impossible.

Other Experts Confirm Fears

Backing up the claims is Australian Geophysicist, Phil Chapman, a former NASA astronaut. Chapman confirms the historic correlation of sunspots to global temperatures and points to the dearth of sunspots since 2007 as the reason why the world has since cooled by about 0.7C.

Writer, Alan Caruba (September 21, 2010) probes the story further after a June 14 article published in the New Scientist by Stuart Clark.

Caruba reports that Clark, “raised the question of why and where the sunspots of gone. Noting that they ebb and flow in cycles lasting about eleven years, Stuart said, “But for the last two years, the sunspots have mostly been missing. Their absence, the most prolonged in nearly 100 years, has taken even seasoned sun watchers by surprise.””

Return to another Little Ice Age or Worse?

The last time sunspots disappeared altogether, during the Maunder Minimum (about 1645 to 1715), our planet descended into a lengthy period of cooling known as the Little Ice Age.

The last major ice age, known as the Younger Dryas happened 12,000 years ago. That sudden event plunged temperatures in the North Atlantic region to about 5°C colder with a 1000-year duration.

Global Cooling Impacts Being Felt Now

Today Californians just had the coldest summer in decades. Last year in the northern hemisphere, Britain suffered one of the worst winters in 100 years. While in the U.S. the National Weather Service (NWS) reported that the bitterly cold winter broke numerous temperature and snow extent records with the 4th coldest February on record. New York and much of the U.S. Northeast was pumeled by record snow falls that deposited about 60cm (2 feet) of snow in NYC alone. While in New Zealand tens of thousands of lambs have perished in bitter winter snows.

Worst Snow Falls Since 1970’s

Rutgers University Global Snow Lab also confirms that the 2010 Northern Hemisphere winter snow extent was the second highest on record, at 52,166,840 km2 and second only to February, 1978 which was slightly higher at 53,647,305 km2.

Are we now seeing the specter of a return to the fears of the 1970s, when climatologists warned of ‘The Cooling World’ (Newsweek, April 28, 1975)? Anna Petherick reporting for Nature.com ( August 27, 2010) recently reported on the brutal northern winter that was quickly followed in the southern hemisphere by a viciously cold winter and Antarctic chills killing millions of aquatic animals in the Amazon.

So will these latest changes in the sun's behavior be a harbinger of more cold to come?

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First of all nature doesn't just flick on a switch and boom... "ICE AGE"

This takes thousands of years of gradual change in weather and I doubt it can be sped up by anything done by us. Nor do we have to worry about an ICE AGE in our lifetimes.

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