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#1 numoneforee

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Posted 02 May 2006 - 06:16 PM

Well,

Me and my friends tought of this alot, and its begining to seem possible.

Some links:
http://www.undergroundgardens.com http://ronslog.typep...tiere_unde.html http://www.roadtripa...aces/forest.htm http://www.mysteries...ch/tunnels.html http://www.subsurfac...s.com/Page.html http://www.subsurfac....com/Page5.html
http://www.cornersto...nel/tunnel.html http://www.discodave...nelguide.co.uk/ http://www.sol.co.uk...nel/Tunnel.html http://www.berlinwal....com/tunnel.htm http://www.islandfar...o.uk/index.html http://www.um.zagan....ft3/tunnels.htm
http:/ /www.irati onal.org/t unneling/u nited_king dom/bristo l/proposal /#manual

Im just ganna dig a big hole(shaft like) and then Dig out holes for grow cabinets. The olny problem I see is with ventalation I was just thinking of an in/out pipe comming up to above ground.

Do you guys have any comments/crittisism for me?




#2 DaNuggetMan

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Posted 02 May 2006 - 08:34 PM

good luck
check this out


#3 evan

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Posted 17 May 2006 - 10:41 PM

RULE NUMBER ONE DON'T TELL ANYONE! wOW YOUR THE GUY.

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#4 MrMookster420

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Posted 22 May 2006 - 06:13 PM

Why do they always steal power???? why not get a generator if you got the $$$ for all that fancy stuff..

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#5 louisville97

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Posted 22 May 2006 - 06:28 PM

They steal power because then it's free. If they used generators, they have to pay the original cost of the generator, which can be in the high tens of thousands depending on your power requirements, and then they have to pay for the fuel. The big ones are very thirsty. So if they can tap into the power grid directly, you can save big $$$. One 1000w bulb uses $37.20 per month at .05 per hour. If you have shitloads of them like in that underground cave scene, electricity bills of $25,000++( minimal estimate) per month would not be out of the ordinary. And that doesn't include the fans and the veg lights. That $300,000 per year could go to more productive things like Hummers, Scarabs, Y2K Series Motorcycles, personal use Apache Gunships,,you know,,toys. Especially if they get free electricity.

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Posted 23 May 2006 - 01:08 PM

Haha. I had this same conversation with a good friend of mine. One day we're talking grow rooms and he goes, why don't people with huge op's just get generators to run stuff and totally be off the grid? When you're having to fill up a generator with 100 gallons of diesel gas a day...it gets a bit costly. Not to mention...transport of the gas, equipment to fill the tanks with. Where do you put this giant generator? It runs on gas and makes a ton of noise.

What I'm very curious in however stems from an article I read in Newsweek over a year ago. It was an article outlining many new housing complexes across the country that are using solar power on all the homes to feed into a central 'cell' of storage for that energy. From this storage energy the system distributes energy to those who need it (shady days) and takes it away from people who have stored up excess energy. If you had a large enough operation, I don't see why something like that wouldn't work. Especially if you put it underground, or hell, even in an empty house and just ran everything on solar.


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Posted 23 May 2006 - 03:17 PM

heres a nice little 1.6 kv solar panel system for just over $19,000

http://www.shop.com/...0-prod-20020446


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Posted 23 May 2006 - 03:53 PM

You could run a very nice grow room on that system. I'd like to build my own solar system, but feel as if lots of research would be in order to construct something like that.

Anyone have experience with something like this?


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Posted 23 May 2006 - 08:19 PM

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heres a nice little 1.6 kv solar panel system for just over $19,000

http://www.shop.com/...0-prod-20020446




Unfortunately that is only 1.6kw. That wouldn't even run 2 1000W bulbs. Not much power for a grow room. So $19,000 to run a 1000W a 400W and a 200W, no fans, seems a little steep for me. That's enough to run the basics of a house, but no furnace or stove or dryer etc. Good for a few lights, a small fridge and a nice TV, but that's about it.

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Posted 24 May 2006 - 09:14 AM

But what's the cost of freedom? Is an h2 worth getting bent over and fucked over and over by groups of men in a shower while the guards watch and laugh. Not fuckin happening. YOu can buy solar pannels for cheap used. Not much work. The problem is you can talk all you want, but that's all you do. Think up half assed thoughts and type it out. Does anyone have an underground room. NO. Are you ever. NO. Why because solar panels are too complicated. Try not to let the couch get cold too long while your on the computer. I don't have an underground room,But I do have an H2. I sure as hell didn't get it by being lazy minded and I smoke O.G. kush all fuckin day and I'm still smarter than thou.

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#11 louisville97

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Posted 24 May 2006 - 10:26 AM

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But what's the cost of freedom? Is an h2 worth getting bent over and fucked over and over by groups of men in a shower while the guards watch and laugh. Not fuckin happening. YOu can buy solar pannels for cheap used. Not much work. The problem is you can talk all you want, but that's all you do. Think up half assed thoughts and type it out. Does anyone have an underground room. NO. Are you ever. NO. Why because solar panels are too complicated. Try not to let the couch get cold too long while your on the computer. I don't have an underground room,But I do have an H2. I sure as hell didn't get it by being lazy minded and I smoke O.G. kush all fuckin day and I'm still smarter than thou.




And who's post is it that you are referring to? P.S.,,I DO have an underground room. 20 X 5, 8" thick re-bar reinforced concrete walls with the floors and ceiling being only 6" thick re-barred concrete, totally underground. No need to cool it in the summer heat, nor do I have to heat it in the winter cold. The earth's temps do all that for me.

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#12 evan

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Posted 25 May 2006 - 05:42 PM

I'm talking about you and J-town. Why would you tap a grid. Maybe because I'm in CA. that idea sounds sooo stupid. I don't know how it is running through the great white north, but CA. has a pretty a tight lock.

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#13 louisville97

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Posted 25 May 2006 - 07:51 PM

Sorry Evan, I see where the confusion came in. I think you interpreted the thread incorrectly. The "tapping the grid" came in when the question, "Why do they always steal power" was asked. Many of the commercial grow rooms bypass the electrical panel to get massive amounts of electricity without having to pay for it. I explained why the generator idea was not economically feasible, and then the conversation went on to the solar panel idea. The sheer cost of the solar panels required for high powered lighting alone would ruin any profit margin you would have. Up here is Canada, all the major grow houses that get busted have always bypassed the hydro meter. If they didn't, the Electric Company would have a search warrant faster than the speed of light if a small residential house was running up a $10,000. electric bill each month. So the growers bypass the meter for the grow op, and keep the rest of the house running through the meter. That way there are no signs given by the meter that there is anything illegal going on. It really is amazing how easy it is to bypass the meter. I would think that even in CA the bigger ops are bypassing the meters. And a bypassed meter still shows a normal useage when the reader comes by to prepare the invoice. Inside the house where the meter cables come to the control panel, that's a different story. I on the other hand, pay for all the electricity I use. I don't believe anyone was actually claiming to be stealing power, just some were wondering why anyone would.

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#14 evan

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Posted 26 May 2006 - 06:14 PM

AHH THE SMOKE CLEARS.

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#15 j-town

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Posted 26 May 2006 - 08:27 PM

Haha, A+ thread, would read again.


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Posted 08 June 2006 - 10:28 PM

ok, well for conversation sake. how would one bypass the meter? seems to me that you'd need acess to the two wires coming into the house before it reached the meter heh. normally u'd have to either drill through a basement wall... then what? the 2 wires are definatly live? seems like quite chore to me..


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Posted 09 June 2006 - 03:04 AM

Yeah, you have to either remove the meter completely to access the back where the input cables come in, or cut through your wall. If your meter is on the outside of your house, people are going to ask questions why there is a guy laying on the ground fried and unconscious with his meter hanging in mid air. Keeping in mind that you still have roughly 100amps of up to 220volts still jumping around in the meter. Not something you're gonna touch your tongue to just to see if it is live. There was another grow-op busted about 45 minutes from where I live and they bypassed the meter. It seems like 98% of all the highend grow houses around Ontario that get busted are always run by Vietnamese people. They must either know something or don't know something, depends on which way you look at things. Unless you're going to get into some mass productions and need huge amounts of electricity, it's best just to pay your hydro bill and be safe.

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Posted 09 June 2006 - 07:31 AM

As your electric companies get more updated equipment there will be less theft of
power.

The power company knows how much goes into a neighborhood and how much they sell. Only so much can be wrote off to bad powerlines and bad conduit. Whether your power company has the portable equipment or hires the crews that have the equipment to go into a neighborhood and chase down all the losses in a week is a different story.

Hey, if the power companies can get paid by the taxpayer's financed drugwarriors' programs then they won't have to pay for the equipment theirselves. That could cost the taxpayers and save the power companies the cost of purchasing a million dollars of equipment and a dozen salaries to run that equipment.

I can see it now, new high tech drug warriors deploying units to chase down power theft headlines, drama follows.


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Posted 09 June 2006 - 09:27 AM

Yes, technology is advancing rapidly. The elecric companies won't be looking for the small time grower, but rather the big time guys. Anything under 5000W won't even blip the meters. The big operations running at least 100,000 watts per month, are the ones bypassing the meters. And all they would need is an infra red camera outside, and 100,000 watts is going to show up like crazy. I just heard on my local news a half hour ago, a guy and his wife in my twin cities just got busted with 80 plants in his back yard. He lives in a pretty densely populated subdivision too. What the heck are people thinking? Eighty plants in your back yard and all your neighbor has to do is look over your fence let alone the smell on a breezy day?? I haven't a clue. At least he wasn't stealing electricity LOL.

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Posted 01 November 2007 - 06:38 PM

haha I love stupid people. So your taking a walk around your local golf course hit your ball in a back yard look over the fence to see what? None other than a jungle of the easily smellable and recognizable green ladies gently swaying in your friendly neighbors backyard. The real queastion is how long did his immediate neighbors know and not say a word.
But in the talk of stealing electricity, I think if you have the money for your own batcave you might want to move to arizona, the land is cheap and if you can get some altitude you can get efficient windmills for fraction of the price of a solar array. one of the guy i work with has a hunting house on 65+ acres of land in arizona, he has 7 windmills that cost 7k each. And he only lives there two months of the year. but the law says if you make more electricity than you use the electric company pays you. so in his case he makes about $250 every month by opening his power bill.
And i apologize if I have jacked the thread at all.
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