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#61 Ohigho

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Posted 04 September 2006 - 07:35 AM

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when I use marijuana I become afraid of God and feel Im doing somthing wrong



If that's true do you realise that's the opposite feeling that many of us have?

So in your mind smoking pot is a sin. Can I ask why you usurp the authority of God by decreeing it a sin? Do you not think that if it were a sin, God, in his omnipotence and ultimate knowledge would have included it in his Word? Why are you contradicting the word of God?




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Posted 04 September 2006 - 08:01 AM

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You needed what? BOOOOONGGGGG BOOOOBIIIIESSSSSSSSSS


careful FL420 people can't tell if you're serious or not. If you like being funny you need to do a comedy show. You've given me many laughs, and it may be funnier not knowing if you're being serious or not but people worry you know. Many people use marijuana medically on this board and they don't need some kid worrying them. Mathew 12:31 "Therefore I say to you, any sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven men, but blasphemy against the Spirit shall not be forgiven." Are you drunk on forgiveness lines?

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Posted 04 September 2006 - 11:25 AM

"WHAT DO I CARE ABOUT INCENSE FROM SHEBA OR KANEH FROM A DISTANT LAND? YOUR BURNT OFFERINGS ARE NOT ACCEPTABLE; YOUR SACRIFICES DO NOT PLEASE ME." Hey Chris I was wondering if this quote means that God was unsatisifed with the quality of the cannabis presented. Could "keneh from a distant land" be compared to the Mexican brick weed of today?

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Posted 04 September 2006 - 06:00 PM

The use of cannabis came via foriegn cults and in the Jeremiah reference this is what is condemned. The foriegn deities competed with Jehova for tha cannabis offerings.


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Posted 04 September 2006 - 06:07 PM

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Actually Ive seen people get healed of back cancer, throat tumors, brain tumors, and all types of stuff by the power of God through the Lord Jesus Christ. jESUS Christ has healed leprosy, cancers, tumors, the lame, blind, def, and demon possessed. Weed has never physically healed anyone of a disease. God created the plant of cannabis, YES. Nothing ws created to be smoked in my opinion though. I admit it is a good source of making tea to help fevers and sicknesses.

There was a interview with a man who had died for 90mins. He was pronounced dead for 90mins on the scene. This man was a Christian and died in a car accident. He was brought back and he claims he met the son of man waiting for him before the Gates of Gods throne. Face it, Jesus is Lord and God is real. It was on 100 Huntley St. He claims he saw so many people who he hadnt seen in years and had past away in his lifetime. Hes got the medical records to prove it.





You believe in fairy tales if you want to, but I think that is pretty sad. There is more evidence of Sanata Clause than there is of any of the healing powers of the Church you talk about there. Pure Poppycock.

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Officially, we can see the ministry of Jesus beginning around his thirtieth year, and from the ensuing description given in the Gospels, as well as the Nag Hammadi Library, we can see that he is a figure of extraordinary intellect and knowledge. Obviously, prior to the New Testament accounts of his life Jesus had spent many years in study and preparation before attempting to claim the title of Messiah. As there is so little record of Jesus from his family and hometown people, it is probable and has been suggested that he traveled some distance from his homeland and remained away for some years. Conceivably, Jesus could have studied under a number of the different Mystery Schools that were around at the time, as is evident from his adoption of many of their practices, (a subject that will be discussed more fully later). "In the Clementine Recognitions, the charge is brought against Jesus that he did not perform his miracles as a Jewish prophet, but as a magician, an initiate of the heathen temples."(Doane 1882) Likewise, Celsus explained that Jesus, born of illegitimate birth, after having "been brought up in obscurity... went as a hired laborer to Egypt and there acquired experience of some [magical] powers. Thence he returned proclaiming himself a god on account of these powers" . The "powers" referred to by Celsus, are the 'miracles" attributed to Jesus, (in Greek the word means both the power itself and the miracles done by it). It was through performing such miracles that Jesus began to establish himself as the promised messiah in the minds of the people.

Like the eminent Christian historian Dr. Hugh Schonfield, we "accept that...[Jesus] was a healer and could effect cures of certain complaints where there was co-operative faith. It was the normal thing in those days both among Jews and Gentiles to expect of sages and saints that they should exercise powers of healing, blessing and cursing in a magical fashion"(Schonfield 1966). But, we take this a step further, suggesting that many of Jesus' miracle cures, may have had a basis of truth that went beyond a placebo effect derived from a pure and magical "faith" in his abilities as the Messiah. In discussing, certain plausible explanations for New Testament "miracles", as well as how such phenomena came to be viewed as miraculous, we need to look at certain matters, such as; how biblical authors had a tendency to elaborate on events over time; the effect of simplifying years of Jesus’ life and teaching, into a few pages of text; the fact that many, what we would consider "medical cures", constituted for the ancients miracles or exorcisms; the effects of crowd-hysteria and belief that would seem to be in effect from New Testament accounts; and finally, how the early Christians viewed cannabis and the holy ointment.

As we have shown elsewhere in our study, (especially in the chapter on Moses), Biblical authors had a tendency to magnify historical events, in order to make them appear more miraculous. This is especially true of the New Testament, which has been heavily doctored to make Jesus fit the role of the promised holy King in the line of David. Further clouding of the New Testament Gospels has to do with the fact that many of the accounts in the Bible were written down decades after they happened, and with time, imagination and fancy have a tendency to obscure memory. In the case of the New Testament accounts, the earliest gospel is thought to have been recorded about 60 years after the crucifixion. Such a text cannot be regarded as an historical account. Although, possibly in origin many of the miracles described in the New Testament could have at their basis logically explainable events which were passed down and retold many times, and through this became shortened and glorified into the miraculous unexplained miracles of the New Testament Gospels.

A majority of the New Testament miracles are described as taking place within an exited crowd of listeners. Instantaneous cures, similar to those described in the New Testament, have even occurred in our own time at Baptist and Christian revivalist gatherings, when the ecstatic mass hysteria has induced the partially handy-capped to stand up from their wheel-chairs, with withered legs walking a few feeble steps, or formerly closed hands slightly opening, etc.. Likely, in the state of frenzy, people with partial movement of limbs, or crippling diseases like cystic fibrosis, are driven into a heightened state of belief by the frenzy of the crowd and event, and in this state, believing they have been healed, they are able, for a short time, to overcome the pain of their maladies and walk a few short steps, or raise their arm, etc., ;"thy faith has made thee whole"(Matthew 9:22); "Daughter, your faith has healed you"(Mark 5:34); "your faith has made you well" (Luke 18:42); etc.. Because of the peoples lack of faith in Nazareth, Jesus is unable to perform any miracles,(Mark 6:5)

Morton Smith suggests that the crowds who Jesus performed his miracles in front of, had been emotionally primed and set-up somewhat, in preparation for Jesus arrival, by apostles who had been sent out ahead.

Everything centered on...[Jesus] , the others were stage hands. Luke gives us a picture of their coming into Jericho. Everybody turned out to see the miracle worker; one man even climbed a tree. Jesus said to him "Zacchaeus, come down at once; I must stay at your house today." A miracle! He had never set eyes on me before, yet he knew my name at once! (But disciples had been "sent out before him into every town and village to which he was going to come" Lk. 10.1). So Zacchaeus, who just happened to be "rich", "received him (and company), rejoicing". No doubt the Joy was mutual.(Smith 1978)

We can also imagine one of Jesus assistants feigning to be a crippled member in the crowd, and miraculously being the very first cured, thus glorifying Jesus’ power in the eyes of the crowd. Again, this is not to say that the possibility of "faith-healing" is denied. That the mind of the individual plays a role in the physical health of the individual is accepted, and even that a person's faith in a placebo medicine or treatment can have beneficial results is, to these authors, believable . But clearly, even in the gospel accounts, it was by their own personal faith that they were healed, not by the magic touch from somebody else. Shaman's often use slight of hand and other tricks, to build up the faith of the individual, by which they cure themselves. It is likely that Jesus and his apostles, viewed their own trickery as a legitimate means of building up the faith and belief in the hysterical crowds that were drawn to see the rumored miracle-worker, who some claimed was the Messiah.

As we can see from the modern "miracles" of evangelical faith-healers, actual "faith" healings can be only a partial example, (if at all), as very few of these modern "miraculous" cures last long, and more often than not, after the crowd has drawn away, formerly useless limbs once are once again succeeded by their previous atrophied state. As for the New Testament accounts, no follow-up stories are offered and we can never know how long lasting some of these miracle cures actually were. Although, it would seem highly unlikely that a reputation for healing, such as the one Jesus has garnered, could last so much longer than the cures that he was reputed to have committed, unless there was an element of truth behind them. From the minimal descriptions given of the New Testament miracles, it is hard to decipher whether the original event described happened immediately, or over time. Perhaps the condensing gospel authors shortened the descriptions into seemingly instantaneous miraculous cures in order to save space and keep the story more exciting?

Another important factor, in the case of miracles and exorcisms, is that at the time of Christ, no differentiation was placed between medical treatment and exorcism or miracles, all three were interrelated. To cure somebody of a disease was paramount to exorcising the tormenting spirit . "Nothing in the books compromising the New Testament stands out more prominently than the belief in the presence of devils being the cause of disease. It crops up again and again. Christ's tour through the land was punctuated with the healing of the sick by the casting out of devils..."(Scott 1966)

The bodies of the possessed...were... looked upon as the seat and organ of demonic working. They were really sick persons , suffering from peculiar diseases (mania, epilepsy, delirium, hypochondria, paralysis, temporary dumbness); these being apparently inexplicable from physical causes, and believed therefore to have their foundation, not in an abnormal organization or in natural disturbances of the physical condition, but in the actual indwelling of demonic personalities. Many of these might be counted in a single sick person.(Alexander 1902\1980)

As to cure of disease was considered exorcism, so to was healing a persons injury considered a "Miracle". Descriptions such as Jesus using a clay poultice mixed with "spittle" , to cure a blind man (John 9:6-15), indicate that there was more involved in many of these miraculous healings, than a mere laying on of hands, yet this event was still recorded as a miracle, and little credence is given to Jesus' material preparation of the poultice.

Clearly, by the time of Jesus miracle-show road trip with his apostles, he was a mature man, in his mid-thirties, and of some experience. As we have indicated he was likely also an initiate of one or more of the Mystery Schools which existed in the ancient World. Many of these Mystery Schools, (and most relevant for this study, the Gnostics, Essenes, and the Zoroastrian Magi who influenced them both so strongly), had an extensive knowledge of plants and healing techniques which parallels that of other aboriginal people. "We need not doubt that... herbs and many hallucinatory drugs would have been included in any Essene and Gnostic pharmacopoeia, and formed part of the stock-in-trade of the itinerant Magi, the great drug-peddlers of the ancient world"(Allegro 1980). It is likely that it was from such groups that Jesus learned of the miraculous healing qualities of cannabis, the medicinal value of which is still highly garnered today.

And they cast out many devils, and anointed with oil many that were sick, and healed them. (Mark 6:13).




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With cannabis, intent and the individual’s pre-conceived opinions of the plant have a pivotal influence on the way the user is effected. This is because cannabis is a hypnotic, and the user applies this trance to a projected opinion of what its effects will be like. This explains why first time users often feel no effect, as they are not yet sure what they are expecting to experience. The hypnotic effects of cannabis are also why prior to their prohibition when powerful cannabis extracts were used to treat a variety of ailments, very few accounts of getting "high" were recorded by the many people it was administered to; the reason being that they had taken the substance as medicine, and as such it made them feel "better" as expected . Referring to this anomaly, Andrew Weil & Winifred Rosen wrote that the nineteenth century medicinal imbibers of cannabis tinctures reported little or no mind altering effects "probably because they did not expect to and so ignored the psychoactive effects"(Weil & Rosen 1983). For such reasons, Weil aptly noted that "the best term for marijuana is active placebo--that is, a substance whose apparent effects on the mind are actually placebo effects in response to minimal physiological action"(Weil 1972\1986)

If the use of such a powerful hypnotic trance-inducing drug was administered during the "heightened state of belief", induced in part by "crowd hysteria" that took place at the gatherings of Jesus and his followers described above, the placebo effects would be magnified to the extreme. Effects that would be especially magnified if the drug were introduced to the ancient participants as a "holy oil", that would cause them to feel being possessed by the "Holy Spirit", (how they interpreted the feeling of getting 'stoned') and that was also rich with healing powers, analogous to the popular "snake oils" sold in the old West. But in the case of cannabis, unlike the phony "snake oils" of yesteryear, the plant not only contained trance inducing qualities, but is actually also rich with medicinal properties that have been used for centuries to treat a variety of ailments. "You are the plant of kindness. Let your power come...and heal... by this [unction]"(The Acts of Thomas).

...THE LEAVES OF THE TREE ARE FOR THE HEALING OF THE NATIONS,(Rev.22:2)

Amongst the more well known accounts of Jesus' miracles is the savior's healing of the lepers that appears in the first three Gospel accounts. Although, it should be noted that the Greek word used in this context, does not necessarily mean leprosy, and can refer to any number of skin diseases;

What we call leprosy is caused by Mycobacterium leprae, a bacillus discovered in 1868 by the Norwegian physician Gerhard Henrik Armauer Hansen. That disease was, in fact, known in New Testament times but was then called elephas or elephantiasis. Ancient sara'at or lepra, on the other hand, covered several diseases, all of which involved a rather repulsive scaly or flaking skin condition - for example, psoriasis, eczema or any fungus infection of the skin."(Crossan 1994).

Here, we may have a suitable application for the topical healing properties of a specially prepared Cannabis Holy Ointment, as hemp ointments have been produced that contain potent bactericidal properties, and these have been used to successfully treat Pruritis, also known as atopic dermatitis, an inflammatory skin disorder that is likely due to an allergic reaction of unknown order. Its symptoms are severe itching, "and patches of inflamed skin, especially on the hands, face, neck legs, and genitals"(Grinspoon 1993). A description that sounds startlingly similar to the skin disease described in Leviticus 13, called tsara'ath, and usually translated in the Old Testament as leprosy, but has been noted by a number of scholars to be more likely a reference to a severe form of dermatitis rather than Hansen's disease. In relation to Jesus' curing of the lepers (Matthew 8,10,11 Mark 1, Luke 5,7,17), where the word lepros, comes from a root meaning scaly, or to flake, which again could be a reference to a severe form of dermatitis, we could have another example of a disease expelled through the use of the cannabis "holy oil", as, besides anti-bacterial properties cannabis has even been said to be effective in treating sufferers of Pruritis when administered through smoking,(Grinspoon & Bakalar 1993).

Evidence of cannabis ointments potential topical healing abilities can also be seen in accounts of its treatment of the modern "sexual leprosy", herpes. Sufferers of cold sores and genital herpes have reported successful treatments by soaking cannabis leaves and flowers in rubbing alcohol and then when the solution turns a greenish color, dabbing it on the site of an potential herpetic sore outbreak. "They say it prevents blistering and makes sores disappear in a day or two... There is now some evidence that THC actually binds to the herpes virus and inactivates it "(Grinspoon M.D. & Bakalar 1993)

A 1960 study in Czechoslovakia, was the first to scientifically conclude that "cannabidiociolic acid, a product of the unripe hemp plant, has bacteriocidal properties"(Mikuriya 1971) The Czech researchers "found that cannabis extracts containing cannabidiolic acid produce impressive antibacterial effects on a number of micro-organisms, including strains of staphylococuss that resists penicillin and other antibiotics"(Grinspoon M.D. & Bakalar 1993)

They [the Czechs] successfully treated a variety of conditions, including ear infections, with cannabis lotions and ointments . Topical application of cannabis relieved pain and prevented infection in second-degree burns ...."(Grinspoon M.D. & Bakalar 1993).

The Gospel of Philip, makes reference to how the Holy Oil "healed the wounds" and the Acts of Thomas, which refers to the "plant of kindness" in association with the Holy oil, instructs that it be used to "heal... sores". In relation, hemp was used in salves and ointments for burns and wounds, throughout the middle-ages, up until near modern times.

Amongst the many medicinal applications of cannabis is its use in relieving the pain of warn and crippled joints, and interestingly we read again in the Acts of Thomas, that "Thou holy oil given unto us for sanctification... thou art the straightener of the crooked limbs" This application of the Holy Oil could reasonably account for the miraculous healing of cripples attributed to Jesus. "Cannabis is a topical analgesic. Until 1937, virtually all corn plasters, muscle ointments, and [cystic] fibrosis poultices were made from or with cannabis extracts"(Herer 1995). A common and effective home remedy for rheumatism in South America, was to heat cannabis in water, with alcohol, and rub the solution into the effected areas, and in the middle of the 19th century Dr. W.B. O'Shaughnessy claimed to have successfully treated rheumatism (along with other maladies), with "half grain doses of ...[hemp] resin" given orally . Centuries before the time of Christ Babylonian texts refere to hemp’s use in ointments for swelling and for the “loss of control of the lower limbs”(The Encyclopedia of Islam 1979) .

In the ancient world and up until medieval times, the disease now known as epilepsy was commonly considered to be demonic possession, and its victims who likely believed themselves to be the victim of a tormenting spirit, were outcasts from society. Referring to the demonically possessed boy of Mattew17:14-20; Mark 9:14-29; Luke 9:37-43 William Alexander, in his worthy DEMONIC POSSESSION IN THE NEW TESTAMENT: ITS HISTORICAL, MEDICAL, AND THEOLOGICAL ASPECTS, wrote: "There is the cry preceded by the unconsciousness. , the sudden fall, the convulsive seizure, the gnashing of the teeth, the foaming at the mouth, the rolling on the ground; then the utter exhaustion, so that in the graphic words of the father, the boy "is shriveled up" (Mark ix.18)....These features belong to a severe type of epilepsy (haut mal), and complete the popular diagnosis."(Alexander 1902). Alexander, who was trained in medicine, continued, referring to the episode found in Mark 1:21-28; and Luke 4: 31-37 known as the Capernaum Demoniac:

Restricting attention to the physical symptoms here present, three thing emerge-

1. A loud cry.

2. A falling down.

3. A severe convulsion.

But these are the specific features of an epileptic attack, and are to be placed alongside of those features which point to acute insanity. By correlating these two groups of symptoms with each other, the final diagnosis is reached without difficulty. The case is one of epileptic insanity.(Alexander 1902\1980)

Here again, with the miraculous healing of these maladies we could have an explanation for other events of demonic exorcism, and the demons expulsion by the use of cannabis. "An article in 1949, buried in a journal of chemical abstracts, reported that a substance related to THC controlled epileptic seizures in a group of children more effectively than diphenylhydantoin (Dilantin), a most commonly prescribed anticonvulsant "(Mikuriya, M.D., 1973). More recently Dr. Lester Grinspoon, a medical marijuana advocate has offered testimonials from modern epilepsy sufferers, who have noted the profound effects of natural marijuana in controlling their seizures, and noted the positive reports of cannabis and synthetic cannabidiol in the treatment of epilepsy obtained in a 1975 report and again in a 1980 study that concluded "for some patients cannabidiol combined with standard antileptics may be useful in controlling seizures. Whether cannabidiol alone, in large doses, would be helpful is not known "(Grinspoon & Bakalar 1993).

Other ailments of spasmodic muscular contractions such as Dystonias, which results in abnormal movements and postures, have been beneficially treated with the administration of cannabis, (Grinspoon & Bakalar 1993). As well, cannabis has been indicated as an effective treatment in the vastly debilitating disease Multiple Sclerosis. There are indications "that cannabis not only relieves the symptoms of multiple sclerosis--muscle spasms, tremor, loss of muscle coordination (ataxia) and bladder control, insomnia-- but also retards the progression of the disease"(Grinspoon & Bakalar 1993).

Another of the miracles attributed to Jesus, was the healing of a women from chronic menstruation (Luke 8:43-48), and again we find that cannabis has been used for the treatment of such ailments, as the U.S. Dispensatory of 1854, listed cannabis extract as a remedy for "uterine hemorrhage", as well as other maladies . Further, in ancient Assyria cannabis was used with other ingredients for the treatment of “female ailments” and as an “anodyne used in menorrhagia and dysmenorrhoea”(Thompson 1924)????

Although the Biblical story of Jesus' cure of the menstruating women, describes this event as a faith healing which results from the woman touching the passing Jesus, and him feeling the "power" go out from him, an actual remedy seems a lot more likely. That such a medicinal remedy could be considered as a miracle, is not at all far fetched. In line with the successful and almost religious fervor to legalize cannabis for its legitimate medicinal applications, in both California, and Arizona. As well, a Sept.5th 1996, edition of the Victoria, B.C., Times Colonist newspaper, ran the following article attesting to marijuana's miraculous healing qualities;

Miracle Cure-all herb is marijuana,(Brazil)

A remarkable herb used as a cure-all by residents of a small town in northern Brazil has turned out to be marijuana.

For years people in Cruzeta, Rio Grande do Norte state, swore by the properties of what they called "liamba". But then a police officer grew suspicious and ordered tests.

Although far beyond the breadth or intent of this book to document, cannabis has also been used successfully to treat Glaucoma , Arthritis, Depression and Mood Disorders, Migraines, and Chronic Pain. In Volume 1, we have documented the use of cannabis amongst the Jews prior to the Christian period, and a recent archeological dig in Bet Shemesh near Jerusalem has documented that cannabis medicine was in use in the area, up until the fourth century . Thus, that it was used for these purposes throughout the intervening Christian period is completely plausible and even likely. In the case of the Bet Shemesh dig, the cannabis had been used as an aid in child bearing, both as a healing balm and an inhalant. Scientist commenting on the find noted that cannabis was used as a medicine in the 16th century B.C., Egypt,(Nature; Vol. 363, 20 May, 1993) . This find garnered some initial attention, but its implication were unfortunately not fully realized at the time, as can be seen from the Associated Press article, "Hashish Evidence is 1,600 years Old", that appeared in the Vancouver, British Columbia, newspaper, the Province, on June 2nd, 1992;

Archeologists have found hard evidence that hashish was used as a medicine 1,600 years ago the Israel Antiquities Authority said yesterday.

Archeologists uncovered organic remains of a substance containing hashish, grasses and fruit on the abdominal area of a teenage female's skeleton that dates back to the fourth century, the antiquities authority said in a statement.

Anthropologist Joel Zias said that although researchers knew hashish had been used as a medicine, this is the first archeological evidence.

The teen, whose skeleton was unearthed in a family tomb in Bet Shemesh near Jerusalem, died in childbirth, the remains of a full term fetus in her pelvis.

The statement said the organic remedy of hashish, grasses and fruit "had been placed on the abdominal area, apparently to reduce labor pains and hemorrhaging, and to increase the force of uterine contractions."

A similar synthetic substance is used today to prevent vomiting in cancer patients undergoing chemotherapy, the statement said.(Associated Press 1992).



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Posted 04 September 2006 - 08:15 PM

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Use to blaze all the time . But I found Jesus Christ




I found him to be not at all what a preacher would have you believe.

Judge for yourself. Church folks always read a small passage, then proceed to interpret it for you coupled with their biases and opinions. The bible is a book of books, a collection of smaller books, not a recipe book. A book should be read in it's entirety before moving on to another book.

The "fire and brimstone" holy healers like Benny Hinn and his kind, for instance, with their neverending need for financial donations, are the ones who need to save themselves before they assume the authority to save others.

May I suggest a good book? Approach it with an open mind, and you may find it enlightening. It's free to read online:

Aquarian Gospel of Jesus the Christ




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Posted 07 September 2006 - 12:59 PM

Thank you for your work and dedication Chris

btw are there any spanish translations to your books? If not I would like to help out or translate it, if it hasnt been already done, because it totally deserves to be written in another languages so the less educated folk can learn

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Posted 08 September 2006 - 02:02 AM

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How can you compare somthing as beautiful as flying with marijuana?




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Posted 08 September 2006 - 03:10 AM

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Men's hands wrote the Bible, ...





Revelations that the written word recorded by the hands of men were skryed through the Spirit.

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Posted 13 September 2006 - 12:48 AM

... the more intense has been the religion of any period and the more profound has been the dogmatic belief, the greater has been the cruelty and the worse has been the state of affairs. In the so-called ages of faith, when men really did believe the Christian religion in all its completeness, there was the Inquisition, with its tortures; there were millions of unfortunate women burnt as witches; and there was every kind of cruelty practiced upon all sorts of people in the name of religion.
You find as you look round the world that every single bit of progress in humane feeling, every improvement in the criminal law, every step towards the diminution of war, every step towards better treatment of the colored races, or every mitigation of slavery, every moral progress that there has been in the world, has been consistently opposed by the organized Churches of the world...
... the Christian religion, as organized in its Churches, has been and still is the principal enemy of moral progress in the world.
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What has human happiness to do with morals? The object of morals is not to make people happy. It is to fit them for heaven." It certainly seems to unfit them for this world.

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Religion is based ... primarily and mainly upon fear. It is partly the terror of the unknown, and partly ... the wish to feel that you have a kind of elder brother who will stand by you in all your troubles and disputes. Fear is the basis of the whole thing-fear of the mysterious, fear of defeat, fear of death. Fear is the parent of cruelty, and therefore it is no wonder if cruelty and religion have gone hand-in-hand. It is because fear is at the basis of those two things. In this world we can now begin a little to understand things, and a little to master them by the help of science, which has forced its way step by step against the Christian religion, against the Churches, and against the opposition of all the old precepts. Science can help us to get over this craven fear in which mankind has lived for so many generations. Science can teach us, and I think our own hearts can teach us, no longer to look round for imaginary supports, no longer to invent allies in the sky, but rather to look to our own efforts here below to make this world a fit place to live in,
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Posted 13 September 2006 - 06:45 AM

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Posted 27 September 2006 - 12:06 PM

You Don´t Believe

You don't believe -- I won't attempt to make ye:
You are asleep -- I won't attempt to wake ye.
Sleep on! sleep on! while in your pleasant dreams
Of Reason you may drink of Life's clear streams.
Reason and Newton, they are quite two things;
For so the swallow and the sparrow sings.

Reason says `Miracle': Newton says `Doubt.'
Aye! that's the way to make all Nature out.
`Doubt, doubt, and don't believe without experiment':
That is the very thing that Jesus meant,
When He said `Only believe! believe and try!
Try, try, and never mind the reason why!'.

William Blake